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PostSubject: Goex or Old Enysford........?   May 31st 2016, 12:18 pm

Last Saturday I was able to do a little comparison shooting between Goex 2F and OE 2F. I only shot 7 PRB's total but in my opinion I feel I had my answer.
The morning was in the low 70's with a clear bright sky and no wind. No skeeters out yet either or boy scout troupes. Was going to be a good day for shooting.
I used the same charge, 70 grains of each powder, the same Hornady .570 ball, .018 patches with ANTI-RUST LUBE worked into the patch and CCI mag caps.

As you can see the powder is pretty close.The target on the left is with Goex and OE on the right. The first shoot of the day was at 1 o'clock on the OE target. The next 3 shots on that target are in the 10 RING just below the bull.
Target on the left are the 5th, 6th and 7th shots. All the shots are in the 10 Ring but maybe it's a cold clean rifle or dirty rifle that designates horizontal or vertical groups with those powders or then again, it could just be ME. Wink 
Shots were from the 50 yard benches.
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Goex was used for the target on the left and OE is on the right :rtup

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   May 31st 2016, 6:23 pm

No real difference actually although the OE is slightly better. Maybe try them at 75 yards and see if they are still almost the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 30th 2016, 8:09 am

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Did you swab out between powders at all. Just curious if fouling from one or the other was more or less. Al

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 30th 2016, 8:22 am

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No BigAl52 I don't swab between powders or shots. Since I've been using Jonathan's ANTI-RUST and LUBE, I don't swab at all. I've shot as many as 20 rounds out of my .58 and never swabbed and my accuracy wasn't effected either. The last ball went down as easy as the first. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 30th 2016, 9:22 am

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Ive used swiss powder for along time and used it in my BPCR days. I tried some Old Ensford yesterday in my 58 when I went the range with Phil. Seemed to be a good powder point of impact was the same between the 2. I have read where Goex came out with it to compete with the swiss. I might need to order some the next time I get powder as I know the price difference is quite a bit. I was just curiuos about the fouling between the 2 as swiss burns pretty clean. I also use Jonathans lubes especially his shootout. That sure does make a new bore settle down quicker. Al

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 30th 2016, 9:28 am

OE is definitely cleaner than Goex. Not by a big amount but some.

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   August 11th 2016, 5:55 am

absolutely agreed from personal observations - oe burns cleaner than goex.  swiss and oe are almost neck-and-neck in both performance and cleanliness, but will give that tiny edge to swiss.  since i use a few cases of swiss 1-1/2f a year for loading bpcr rounds, i add in a goodly amount of swiss 3f to the order and i'm set for all my muzzleloaders (flintlock trad, exclusively).

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   March 17th 2017, 5:25 pm

I've used Goex, Swiss, Old Enysford, and several others that have gone up in smoke like Green River Powder Company. I have to agree with most of you for normal (average) shooting they are all in the ball park. 

At Friendship matches every year you can walk behind the loading benches and if visible Goex is the most used powder at that event. You only see about half of what's being used, one shooter is afraid the guy next to him may change to what he's doing. These guys eat and sleep 10X target shooting, the tighter the better. 

I asked several of the guys I knew that would come to state shoots in the mid-west that our group would attend "what was the best powder for rifles, large or small"? They pretty much answered the same "how much time are you willing to practice and know your loads, wind gauge, the flags, the temps". That says it all ..... practice

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 26th 2017, 9:47 am

I'm an unrepenting swabber.
I swab twixt shots.
Easier to load the next round, cuts down fouling build up.
Just me.
What I prefer.
Slows down shooting though.
Also avoids a stuck rod in the bore.
Been there done that.
Had to pull the nipple and dribble in some 4 fg.
Man that ram rod sailed and sailed and sailed.........................

I like Frog Lube for patch lube though olive oil works great also.

Crisco over the ball for cap 'n ball revolvers.
Sure makes the revolver slippery.
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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   July 26th 2017, 10:42 am

Like Pete said: "OE is definitely cleaner than Goex. Not by a big amount but some."

If you have ever been to Friendship to the National Matches you'll see the pros take their first shot off paper. That's their "fouling shot" that 85% of them do on every (5) shot target they shoot. I've talked to them and am told after all the testing done this was the best practice for "5X-10 Ring" shooting.

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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   Yesterday at 6:22 am

It is my understanding that the difference between Goex and Old Eynsford is the wood used to make the charcoal.  Goex uses poplar. OE uses alder, which burns hotter and cleaner and therefore does not leave as much fouling in the bore.  Swiss also uses alder for the charcoal portion of the powder< I think that is why it is comparable to OE.
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PostSubject: Re: Goex or Old Enysford........?   Yesterday at 6:31 am

@Grimord wrote:
It is my understanding that the difference between Goex and Old Eynsford is the wood used to make the charcoal.  Goex uses poplar. OE uses alder, which burns hotter and cleaner and therefore does not leave as much fouling in the bore.  Swiss also uses alder for the charcoal portion of the powder< I think that is why it is comparable to OE.


That's correct friend, good post. t up

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