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PostSubject: Field & Stream muzzleloading myths   August 29th 2016, 12:47 am

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2016/08/we-put-six-age-old-muzzleloader-rules-to-the-ultimate-test?src=SOC&dom=fb

The first issue I have is the fact they even did to those bullets and actually shot them. Plain stupidity and needless to say... Who would actually be dumb enough to shoot something like that in real hunting conditions?

CONDENSATION test: Not exactly what I'd do for a test. Rain/snow are much bigger threats and normally catch us out in the field a lot longer than an hour before we can get back into camp.

Loose powder comparison shows they did not know the difference between pellet and loose t7 power levels. The whole point of loose powder is that you are able to fine tune your loads, easier ignition and the biggest reason, loose powder comes in a sealed can! Not a box with a huge crack around the entire case. I remember when I had a bunch of pellets and when I went to use them, they were all looking like dried up/cracked sun baked sand after it rained.

Not Cleaning Your Muzzleloader: What a joke! They used a nitride gun and then try to compare it a blued Tracker which shot PYRODEX VS the other Nitride rifle that shot T7. headslap headslap

I'll leave it off there for now! Not very good comparisons or overall testing IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Field & Stream muzzleloading myths   August 29th 2016, 6:08 am

What those dummies failed to realize is those so called myths came about with sidelocks, PRB, and black powder.

Let's see the same tests with those guns and loads.

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PostSubject: Re: Field & Stream muzzleloading myths   August 30th 2016, 8:15 pm

OMG! This article is worse than terrible, it is freaking dangerous. 
(My copy just arrived.)

It is rotten, ignorant, amateurish, and dismissive to actual practitioners. 
I am stunned.

There are many misleading and out right wrong statements 
made blithely as if they were certainties when they were  
opinions- clearly based on a very narrow experience base. 
These were 'newbies.'

But, they make statements as if from exhaustive research and 
experience. I call BS.

Among other things?

They claim that barrel condensation can not cause mis-fires and 
hang fires! They say flat out that we should ignore the possibility. 
Based on what?! A very few tests with little range and variation?! 
(They only tested freezing temps.) What about different types of 
weather, powder, grade, altitude, experience, and all sorts of things 
I can't even think of?

Moisture and black powder do not mix. Condensation is moisture. 
Period. I am sorry that the dozen or so 'tests' they ran did not show 
this. Black powder is also resilient and surprising. 

For the record: I had a condensation caused misfire LAST MONTH. 
In July, in Florida, the temperatures were brutally hot at the range. 
My rifle was kept in 70 degrees. The heat index was in the 110+ range. 
I took it out and loaded it immediately. The condensate was so heavy, 
I was immediately concerned. Sure enough, the powder failed to ignite. 
The cause was clear and without doubt. Fortunately, I was aware and careful. 
What if you did not know to?

This article has caused me to doubt all the 'expert' advise in Field & 
Stream. It really is that bad. 

It also seems dismissive. With all the black powder experience and expertise 
out there, they could not be bothered to respect it, find it, and deliver it?

Irritating.

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PostSubject: Re: Field & Stream muzzleloading myths   August 31st 2016, 9:33 am

To paraphrase an old saying: "Those that can, do; those that can't, write for outdoor magazines."

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PostSubject: Re: Field & Stream muzzleloading myths   August 31st 2016, 9:37 am

@patocazador wrote:
To paraphrase an old saying: "Those that can, do; those that can't, write for outdoor magazines."

Why does Mumbo Jumbo come to mind?

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