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PostSubject: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 16th 2017, 6:37 am

I am collecting up some different powders to try out of my Traditions Mtn rifle 50 cal . I am wondering if anyone has anyone has any solids feed back on OE powders. i am looking at shooting 3f or 2f powder. I will be shooting mostly conicals for hunting and round balls.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 16th 2017, 7:46 pm

2fg olde eynsford is an awesome powder. Never shot the 3fg in the MR yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 7:51 am

It's ok, but I still don't trust it's pure black powder considering the price, power, and maker.

Try Swiss powder.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 9:44 am

It's pure black. Shoots wonderful in a flintlock.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 9:58 am

It has all the ingredients of real black, but what else is in there? Just the fact that they also make Pyrocrap and got almost the power of Swiss for so cheap that makes me suspicious. Plus, it cracks like the fake powder instead of the boom of black powder. I don't remember the smoke, but I seem to remember it didn't look right either. The last thing is it's cleaner. Why? Pyrocrap is cleaner too. They certainly don't go through all the processes and use the same charcoal as Swiss. How did they get it to burn cleaner?

The whole thing is fishy.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 5:05 pm

I may some 2f then out of the rifle. Im just trying different powders to see what the gun may like.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 5:57 pm

not really pete, its smaller granulation as well. Nothing fishy, that stuff fires in a flintlock FAST.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 6:56 pm

It would if it has all three ingredients of BP. I'm just wondering how they got the extra power over regular Goex.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 8:12 pm

I heard and read that OR 2f was a little finer granules than regular 2f Goex. One said it was like 2.5f.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 17th 2017, 8:17 pm

That would account for some of it, but even Goex 3f doesn't have the power of OE 2F.

OE is some strong powder. I talked to Hodgdon about it and they told me their goal was to equal Swiss powder. He said they came close, but couldn't quite do it.

If it really is pure black powder with no additives it's a hell of a deal for what they sell it for.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 18th 2017, 6:34 am

I was told (???) that the reason OE is stronger than goex and almost equal to Swiss is they use a different wood (alder) for the charcoal ingredient.  Alder burns cleaner and hotter than popular, which is what I think Goex uses for the charcoal.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 18th 2017, 8:05 am

Yes, i've read that too. Alder is what Swiss uses. If it was so easy to use Alder why didn't Goex use it all this time? They only get $1.00 more a pound for OE. Who wouldn't have bought Goex all this time if it was like OE?

Something is not right. Alder is not cheap to use which is part of the reason Swiss prices were always higher. Granted, Swiss does more than just use Alder to make a better powder, but it's part of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 18th 2017, 11:16 am

Green River Powder Company was playing with aluminum in their powder at Leadville CO shoot one year, boy did that stuff shoot hot (like a 150 grain load with a 100 grain charge).

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 18th 2017, 11:25 am

Check your PM conner.

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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   June 18th 2017, 6:05 pm

@Bear Claw wrote:
Check your PM conner.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   July 26th 2017, 9:15 am

@Bear Claw wrote:
It would if it has all three ingredients of BP. I'm just wondering how they got the extra power over regular Goex.
The ingredients are all the same.
It's the QUALITY if ingredients that makes the difference.
I have a bunch of Elephant.
GARBAGE.
Oh, it goes bang just fine but leave much more fouling in the
bore than any I have ever used.
I'll use it up in my muzzle loading shotgun.


QUALITY of ingredients if paramount.
Quality of charcoal might the more important that the others.
Thorts????
Opinion welcome.

A teaser question?
If you most accurate load is 60 grains of whatever powder.
Dose it matter if you load 58, 59, 60, 61, 62???

Answer: NO!

Why we load by volume not weight.
I would never do that with smokeless.
Reminds me of the people that think loading
5 grains of smokeless then the charge of black.
For some reason they think it makes the black burn "better".
Might as well load 5 grains of bullseye and PLUG the bore
with cement.
I've seen THREE muzzle loaders burst at the breech from doing
that.
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   July 26th 2017, 9:29 am

@Bear Claw wrote:
It's ok, but I still don't trust it's pure black powder considering the price, power, and maker.

Try Swiss powder.


YES THIS^^^^

Bear Claw has it right, spot on.
We who worship Holy Black love Swiss.
Darned stuff got expensive however.
If you don't shoot 20 pounds a year buy the stuff.
If you DO shoot 20 pounds a year I admire you.
No sense skimping on price and get inferior powder.
If reenacting to just make smoke and noise it don't much
matter.


What do you think I feed this one?
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   July 26th 2017, 9:32 am

Far from inferior. OE is a real black powder and powerful, accurate and stinks so good!
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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   July 26th 2017, 9:36 am

http://www.custommuzzleloaders.com/grease.html

Built by keith lylse of Ohio.
A master builder.

.40 caliber. With just 10 grains of Swiss 3 f g it is as quiet as a .22 rim fire and knocks
small game into the skillet.
Will take a deer with 50 grains but I've never used it for deer.
I have others that shoot a bigger ball.

Heck anyone can bag game with a modern rifle or shotgun.

I lean towards archery and muzzle loaders.
I even hunt rabbits with a single shot 12 bore front loader.
A T/C.


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PostSubject: Re: Olde Eynsford powder 2f or 3f   July 26th 2017, 9:40 am

@FrontierGander wrote:
Far from inferior. OE is a real black powder and powerful, accurate and stinks so good!


O.K. but it ain't Swiss.

S'okay. What ever works for ya.

Stink is ambrosia.

There is a hornets nest above the front door.
A big'un. I'll be saving that nest for between powder
and ball.

AFTER the insects leave!!

Ask me how I know.
49 stings like to have kilt me.
OUCH!

yeller jackets.

Things went up my pants even and got me in the...........

tender places.

I was sick for 3 days. Sad Sad Sad
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