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Clyde



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PostSubject: 40 in a 50   July 9th 2017, 10:23 am

Does anybody use the Barnes 195 gr or any 40 cal bullet for that matter in a 50 cal ?  If so whats your starting load ?
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 10th 2017, 7:56 am

yes and always start with 80 gr. Hodgens triple 7  3fff and work up no more then 110 gr.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 12th 2017, 5:08 pm

YES THERE ARE MMP I BELIEVE THEIR LIGHT BLUE IN COLOR
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 12th 2017, 5:27 pm

@ceader savage wrote:
YES THERE ARE MMP I BELIEVE THEIR LIGHT BLUE IN COLOR
I checked their site 'savage.  The tan MMP sabots are the ones designed for .40 bullets in 45 cal. smokers only.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 12th 2017, 8:37 pm

Marty

There are 50 cal blue crush rib sabots that Harvester sells that hold a 40 call bullet, typically the 200 grain SST. I use them in my Optima pistol and others use them in their rifles. Please see this link: https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php/products/crush-rib-sabots/item/45-50-cal-crushed-rib-sabot-for-400-cal-bullet.

Some folks get great accuracy and swear by their performance on deer. 

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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 13th 2017, 5:35 am

Well I learned something.  Thank you jcampoli for providing that link and information for the .50 viewers!
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 18th 2017, 7:41 am

I have modern muzzle loaders, 4 of 'em.
I also have a supply of sabot boolets.

I'm in psychotherapy trying to get over the modern muzzle loader mental illness. headslap
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 30th 2017, 12:42 pm

Well this wasn't successful.  Tried the Barnes 195 gr in the harvester sabot and results were dismal they were so bad I thought I had a scope issue.  I think it was the sabots they were so easy I could thumb them in the barrel and they weren't really expanded .  So I put the tried and true load of 250 gr Monoflex with the Harvester smooth over 110 gr 209 and sure enough the first group was 13/16 and the second was 11/8  so I guess you could say the importance of sabot fit can't be underestimated.  The smooth blacks were a lot harder to start they actually stopped where the rifling started where as the crush ribs with the 40's were easily thumbed into the rifling.  The other nice unexpected thing was the Cabelas ml scope was unexpectedly bright and the click adjustments were bang on.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 30th 2017, 1:25 pm

No surprise there Clyde with the 195 Barnes.  Too much plastic between the .40 bullet and bore.
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PostSubject: Re: 40 in a 50   July 30th 2017, 10:48 pm

http://www.prbullet.com/shop/products.php

Get some.

Had a friend shoot a doe in the neck at about 30 yards with one and almost
decapitated the thing.

I use 'em in my Lyman G.P.H. and Optima in line though I prefer trad muzzle loaders

and round ball.

Like this one: http://www.custommuzzleloaders.com/buckscounty.html

She's a beauty and very accurate with ball, & pillow ticking lubed
with olive oil.
Olive oil was a favorite old time patch lube if one could get
it back in the day.
Was called "sweet oil" back then.
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