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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 6:43 am

I use Neo Ballistol Hausmittel in the bottle with the red label. Mix 50/50 with water for cleaning .

 For all the nooks and crannies the fouling get into where a toothbrush don't reach (like inside the snail and the flash channel) carb cleaner works like a charm.

I even use carb cleaner to clean my revolvers cylinder on the inside.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 8:42 am

There are better protectants than Ballistol. Ballistol cleans well because it's a surfactant that works on both oil and water because it's soluble in both. It also means that it doesn't repel water when used as a rust preventive. Barricade is better.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 9:23 am

That hasn't been proven in the testing i've seen.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 9:38 am

I agree with Pete , I've never had a gun rust that was 'oiled' with Ballistol.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 9:53 am

That's how surfactants work.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 11:08 am

In a pinch you can lube your patches with ballistol as well and it works very well.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 11:24 am

@patocazador wrote:
That's how surfactants work.



Yes, but Ballistol is more than a surfactant. It's excellent at rust prevention.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 2:08 pm

I think its one product just different types of dispensers I have 1  large 16 oz bottle that I pour into a spray bottle for my water mix and a spray 8 oz bottle with a red tube that I use to lubricate.  Just make sure that before you got to the range that you shoot some GUNSCRUBBER in the barrel and fire channel to clear it out.  I've never had rust on any firearm that I have used it in and it cleans BP and substitutes like a dream.  But  that odor can get bothersome lol.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 2:23 pm

LOL true, like a carb or brake cleaner. But damn that stuff is awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 2:41 pm

The reason its a great rust prevent is it is alkaline based rust is acidic it changes the ph balance if you want to get technical.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 3:27 pm

I always hear about how bad the smell is in Ballistol. I never even noticed it, and i've used it since the 70's.

I tried that Montana solvent, and almost passed out from the smell. What's in that stuff?

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 4:55 pm

Can't smell it over your own stench  Suspect 

Agreed, blackhorn209 solvent and their bore oils actually had me almost vomiting due to the super strong smell. It should be used as an " outside only" cleaner/oil.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 12th 2013, 10:26 pm

I love the smell of Ballistol !

Jon I normally use the brake cleaner before going to the range to clean out all the oil in the barrel and flash channel.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 8:46 am

Alcohol is much cheaper Spit.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 9:20 am

Pete I have a lot of cars to keep running so i'll have at least 6 cans at any one time in the garage , and it is so easy to use . Just squirt a lot through the nipple till it runs out the barrel and then push a patch wetted with the stuff through the barrel a few times and after it dries out and you're ready to shoot.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 11:32 am

I got the carb cleaner and just ordered the Ballistol and mink oil tallow. Where do you guy get your bees wax from. I may want to experiment?  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 11:35 am

Drummy you need to get in contact with people that sell stuff to bee-keepers , they keep wax as well.
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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 1:01 pm

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I got the carb cleaner and just ordered the Ballistol and mink oil tallow. Where do you guy get your bees wax from. I may want to experiment?  Smile

You won't need beeswax if you got the mink oil from TOW. That's what I use on shooting patches, and it's great.

Is this what you got?

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/132/1/MINK-OIL

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 1:23 pm

Muley wrote:
@drummy wrote:
I got the carb cleaner and just ordered the Ballistol and mink oil tallow. Where do you guy get your bees wax from. I may want to experiment?  Smile

You won't need beeswax if you got the mink oil from TOW. That's what I use on shooting patches, and it's great.

Is this what you got?

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/132/1/MINK-OIL
yup that's it

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 2:25 pm

It's a great patch lube that won't harden when it's real cold out. You don't need much on a patch.

I usually sit in front of the TV, and lube the patches. It goes without saying that you start with unlubed patches. I just put a little between my thumb and fore finger, and rub it into the patch. Don't use too much. I like watching TV while doing it. Otherwise the boredom drives me nuts. The TV takes my mind off it.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 3:41 pm

Muley wrote:
It's a great patch lube that won't harden when it's real cold out. You don't need much on a patch.

I usually sit in front of the TV, and lube the patches. It goes without saying that you start with unlubed patches. I just put a little between my thumb and fore finger, and rub it into the patch. Don't use too much. I like watching TV while doing it. Otherwise the boredom drives me nuts. The TV takes my mind off it.

Hey Pete
Do you cover the whole patch? How do you store them after there lubed?

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 5:04 pm

Yes, a thin coating on the whole patch, both sides. You don't need it on both sides, but it makes it easier to not have to figure out which side has the lube.

I would store them in a small tin like the Altoids tin to take with me to the range/hunt. The rest i'd keep in a a zip lock baggy. Sometimes on a hunt i'd use a loading blocks. TOW sells them, or you can make them easily. It's a small board with holes drilled in it. You push in the patched round balls in each hole. Just a little past level. Then it's easy to center one of the PRB's over the muzzle, and shove it in with a short starter. That's easier than messing with the patches while hunting. Sort of an old style speed loader.

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 5:32 pm

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Yes, a thin coating on the whole patch, both sides. You don't need it on both sides, but it makes it easier to not  have to figure out which side has the lube.

I would store them in a small tin like the Altoids tin to take with me to the range/hunt. The rest i'd keep in a a zip lock baggy. Sometimes on a hunt i'd use a loading blocks. TOW sells them, or you can make them easily. It's a small board with holes drilled in it. You push in the patched round balls in each hole. Just a little past level. Then it's easy to center one of the PRB's over the muzzle, and shove it in with a short starter. That's easier than messing with the patches while hunting. Sort of an old style speed loader.

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http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/152/1
I"m a wood worker so I think I can make one of those boards
Thanks for the reply

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 7:14 pm

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@Clyde wrote:
If you can stand the smell get one cleaner that can do it all Ballistoil get a spray bottle fill it about a 1/4 full then add water that will clean anything except BH209 .  Then oil the weapon including the stock with straight Ballistoil.  Straight Ballistoil will clean BH 209 if you shoot that too !
which Ballistoil do you use? I see they have 3-4 different products

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PostSubject: Re: TC 50 cal. Hawken   December 13th 2013, 8:29 pm

My storage thing for patched round balls is different. It's a short piece of PVC pipe that holds five patched round balls. Just push a patched ball out with the short starter, right onto the muzzle of the gun.

Yep, i refuse to use ballistol: The best patched round ball lube i've used is GoJo. Thanks, Don Jose.
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