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PostSubject: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 14th 2014, 8:32 pm

All of those that hunt from tree stands, do you find that the 26" or longer barrels can be a bit of a pain to handle in the tree stand? I noticed my 30" and 32" barrels felt awkward in my double man ladder stand, almost felt like half the gun was hanging over the rail.

What do you like best for the stand?

I have a spare 50cal barrel for my Hawken and am considering making it a tree stand barrel and cut it down to roughly 19 or 20 inches in length.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 14th 2014, 8:45 pm

I have used only inlines in tree stands and have never had an issue. The CVA Magbolt and the Traditions LDR is what I have used. I also have a Summit Viper that I use and it has a rail that goes all the way around the front but it is lower than the shooting rail of ladder stands. This always me to rest my elbows on the rail and be comfortable when shooting. This year was my first time being in a ladder and without the rail it felt uncomfortable to aim. I didn't shoot out of the ladder stand but it is the only option for the trees in the area I was in. 
I could see where a longer barrel traditional muzzleloader could be a little awkward because of the extra weight out towards the end.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 15th 2014, 5:57 am

I shot an Apex .45. I bought one of the short barrels from Carlos that he had shortened. When I put the short barrel on the Apex, it handled so much better than the long barrel that I haven't used the long barrel since. I feel the balance and weight of the gun makes for better off hand shots. I took two deer in Kansas two years ago at about 100 yards from a ground blind shooting off hand from a ground blind.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 15th 2014, 7:22 am

I use (or used to use) all kinds of tree stands. You hunt the deer not the area but the area the deer happen to be in dictates what stand is best. For portability where straight trees are available, nothing beats a light-weight aluminum climber. Hang-ons are good for gnarly old twisted trees and ladders will serve the same purpose if low height isn't a problem. Blinds are good most anywhere.

When using a gun, I always face the tree in my climbing stand. The tree acts as a brace for the gun and hides body movements. Where legal, I use small screw-in hangers for the weapon placed where I can get it quickly and with little movement. I sit a ladder stand backwards where possible for this advantage too.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 15th 2014, 7:37 am

None of my inlines feel too long but I'm not in a cluster of branches or spots that make it tight. The ground cover may be thick but I always have a clear area for the gun. If a deer that I want to take sees me, it's likely to be the last thing he sees.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 15th 2014, 6:08 pm

My muzzleloaders have fairly short barrels. They are handy in tree stands.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 12:22 pm

It's definitely a much easier proposition with the shorter barrel from a tree stand. Especially if you're using a tree "climbing stand", which I use quite often. In fact I carried both (rifle and muzzleloader) to a few permanent tree stands several times this past season, since I never got a shot during our short 2-week muzzle loading season.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 4:01 pm

@BlueMax wrote:
I never got a shot during our short 2-week muzzle loading season.

Don't squawk, ours is only 9 days on private land - 3 days on public land.  Sad 

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 4:03 pm

@patocazador wrote:
@BlueMax wrote:
I never got a shot during our short 2-week muzzle loading season.

Don't squawk, ours is only 9 days on private land - 3 days on public land.  Sad 


Don't squawk. Getting a deer tag here is like winning Powerball.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 4:06 pm

@patocazador wrote:
@BlueMax wrote:
I never got a shot during our short 2-week muzzle loading season.

Don't squawk, ours is only 9 days on private land - 3 days on public land.  Sad 

We have a whopping 4 day muzzleloader season. Oh wait they added a stupid early doe only muzzleloader season this year that is 2 days long.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 7:45 pm

Not really complaining gents, as I know we're blessed here in North Carolina to have almost a full month of bow season, then the 2-week muzzleloader season. All prior to regular gun season.

The ONLY real complaint I have about NC's hunting regulations is the buck bag limit. Don't want to start an alternate discussion here, but the eastern part of the state allows a hunter to take as many as 4 bucks  Shocked, while the western half of the state only allows for 2 bucks. I WISH they would change the buck limit to be 2 for the entire state! That's why the larger bucks come from west of I-95, while it's rare to shoot a 140-150 class whitetail here in the eastern part of the state, or at least as far as I can tell! That along with many who have the mentality of... "if it's brown; it's down".  Shooter 

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 16th 2014, 7:46 pm

That's me!

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 8:42 am

I get to hunt a buck (no does) every 2-3 years, and it has to be a 4 point. (on one side) I appreciate it better than someone who can kill a herd every year. No matter what they are. Young bucks, does, and fawns. I'll never be so hungry to do that.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 2:53 pm

How often do you get a 4 x 4 when you draw a license?

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 2:57 pm

why does it have to be a 4 point? We dont have minimum antler points anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 3:23 pm

Sure we do. It depends on the unit.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 3:51 pm

if its a trophy unit maybe but I see no point restriction in the hunting guide under the rules. Other than must have at least a 5" antler.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 3:58 pm

It certain game zones in SC for whitetail there is no limit on bucks or doe's. Crazy!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 17th 2014, 9:34 pm

@SCHUNTER wrote:
It certain game zones in SC for whitetail there is no limit on bucks or doe's. Crazy!!!

If the area is over populated they do that sometimes. Many deer are harder on the food, water and shelter available. There are other reasons as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 18th 2014, 4:33 am

You're right Mark , it is for that very same reasons we do culling . A given piece of land can only carry so many animals and the rest must be removed.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzleloading from a tree stand   January 18th 2014, 6:56 am

I only hunt from a climbing tree stand, a Summit Viper.  The T/C Encore Pro Hunter 28" barrel was a little too long and barrel heavy for me.  I really noticed a pleasant difference when I went to the Accura MR.  Swings easy and a lot lighter in my arms when I'm standing. 

My expectations will be a little different when I take my .58 cal Hawken flintlock.  Then I'm hunting primitive and feel it's all part of the experience.   Very Happy

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