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PostSubject: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 12:55 am

I picked up a .50 Traditions Deerhunter (percussion) recently. I was taking the gun apart to get everything good and cleaned. I carefully unscrewed the breech tang and removed it. When doing this I noticed that the front half of the hole(wood) where the breech tang screw goes thru the stock is missing. The stock is in real nice shape overall. I wonder if that chunk of wood has been missing for awhile. Anyway, do you guys think this could be an issue, regarding accuracy, etc? The breech tang and screw gets nice and tight, as is. Thanks. Chris





 




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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 9:13 am

thats pretty typical, some half stocks with this style tang can get real thin on wood in this area. If you don't like it, you can coat the tang and tang screw with johnson floor wax and then bed it with acraglass.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 9:35 am

okay. I will look into that. If I just leave it as is I didn't know if it creates any potential accuracy issues or not? I was considering picking up a replacement stock for it but didn't know if there was any need  to do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 9:39 am

no you shouldnt have any problem, its usually the hook at the end of the breech plug that sits into that area so they may have carved that out in order to get the room needed for the barrel to install correctly. I had to chisel out some wood in that area too when i built Ray's 58 hawken due to it having a different tang on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 9:54 am

Do the bedding job anyway as it can only help in the accuracy department.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 10:16 am

To bed one gun does it cost $20-30 for materials. Which company's stuff do you guy's use?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 10:22 am

Acraglass, its around $26 to $30. Mix it for the full 4 minutes they recommend! Something even like jb weld can be used as well, just have to make sure you coat the parts with a good release agent with either product used.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 11:13 am

I've used Pratley Plastic Steel and the Clear Epoxy Glue to do small bedding jobs , use Spay and Cook as a release agent.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 11:21 am

Brownells sells acraglass but you might be able to find it locally too.  If you are using it in an area that is under stress from recoil use the acraglass.  Don't try shortcuts by using a cheaper product, some don't set up as hard and might be subject to humidity and other atmospheric conditions. You can use other products for basic filler but if the area is under recoil stress it could result in cracking the stock.  And like frontier said, follow the instructions and use release agent as it is recommended.

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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 12:23 pm

Stocky's brand bedding compound. Much cheaper than Accuglass and rumored to be the same stuff, just sold thru Stocky's not Brownell's.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-531/Stocky%27s-Epoxy-Gel-%26/Detail

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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 7:13 pm

Thanks for the replies guys! I'll look at these options and go from here. I plan on researching to find a video how the process works. Is the bedding process very complicated or is it relatively easy?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 9th 2014, 7:28 pm

its pretty darn easy. Once its mixed up, fill in the section you want bedded with a layer of bedding and then lay the tang into place and just barely tighten up the tang screw. If you over tighten it, it will squeeze out a great deal of the bedding.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 8:39 am

@ac10 wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys! I'll look at these options and go from here. I plan on researching to find a video how the process works. Is the bedding process very complicated or is it relatively easy?

It's so easy that even I can do it.  geek 

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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 9:03 am

@patocazador wrote:
It's so easy that even I can do it.   
Me too and most my work looks like it was put together by a gorilla with a 8 pound maul. Deadhorse

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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 9:32 am

If you break them with that 8lbs call me ...i'll re weld the parts for you with a LH rod so they are stronger than before  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 10:33 am

Alright. The tang screw comes thru the hole and tightens the trigger assembly. But that long screw will still be removable and doesn't get imbedded, correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 10:36 am

You have to put release agent on the screw as well to stop it from becoming a permanent fixture.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 10:56 am

correct, put lots of release agent on that screw. When you bed it and install the tang/screw, you BARELY want to tighten that screw up.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 10th 2014, 8:42 pm

got it, thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditions Stock/Breech Tang ?   February 11th 2014, 8:06 pm

I agree with bedding it as just knowing that it is that way would bug me!
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