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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 2nd 2014, 6:29 am

GregK, did you use any kind of wad between the charge and the TEZ?
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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 2nd 2014, 6:57 pm

Yes, a dry wad. Not sure on the thickness. I order them from Track of the Wolf & they are the only 50 cal dry wad they offer

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 2nd 2014, 8:20 pm

A local shop has the H&R thumbhole stainless but price is high (500). Buds has an Apex SS for slightly more. I'd love to go through Carlos but I never have the money when he's selling. Hopefully things will come together before season starts. If not my LDR will work out to 200.

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 2nd 2014, 8:40 pm

@biddler2 wrote:
A local shop has the H&R thumbhole stainless but price is high (500). Buds has an Apex SS for slightly more. I'd love to go through Carlos but I never have the money when he's selling. Hopefully things will come together before season starts. If not my LDR will work out to 200.
You can get a APEX 45/70 SS black for 480.00 Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Then sent it to slufoot which I think he charges 100.00 (correct me if I'm wrong on that one Greg) and get a BP from PR., and you are all set to go. this would be a lot better set up than the H&R and you can still change barrels on it. Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 3rd 2014, 11:01 am

That is right Carlos. I also bought the collapsible ramrod from Slufoot & the insurance for shipping & I think it was 135.00. Have to say that I love that ramrod too. His quality is excellent & I am very very happy with everything. I'm still amazed at the accuracy right out of the gate!

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 4th 2014, 8:04 pm

Greg did you get the bushing or vent liner plug?  I felt like the Apex was the better platform but was looking at options. I like the possibilities of the 700 builds but not sure I like the weights for hunting. I think I can do what I need with the Apex.

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 5th 2014, 7:58 pm

@biddler2 wrote:
Greg did you get the bushing or vent liner plug?  I felt like the Apex was the better platform but was looking at options. I like the possibilities of the 700 builds but not sure I like the weights for hunting. I think I can do what I need with the Apex.
I looked at both & then discussed it with Carlos. I went with the vent liner style & am very happy with it.

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 10th 2014, 10:27 pm

Forum has been pretty slow lately so I'll ask instead of pm. Why not go with the bushing system. I have never used vent liners but from what I have read they don't last long and the accuracy falls off. The bushing setup isn't cheap but if you can get 300+ shots without issue it seems cheaper in the long run. 
I'm pretty sure I'm going the Apex route to start. I'll use slufoot for the conversion and on your recommendation I'll pick up one of his ramrods.

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 11th 2014, 7:14 pm

@biddler2 wrote:
Forum has been pretty slow lately so I'll ask instead of pm. Why not go with the bushing system. I have never used vent liners but from what I have read they don't last long and the accuracy falls off. The bushing setup isn't cheap but if you can get 300+ shots without issue it seems cheaper in the long run. 
I'm pretty sure I'm going the Apex route to start. I'll use slufoot for the conversion and on your recommendation I'll pick up one of his ramrods.
My understanding is that the bushing style system has to be fitted to your barrel each time you wear one out which means sending it back to slufoot each time.. It's your choice of course, but both Robert & Carlos recommended going with the vent liners over the bushing so that is what I did.

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CEB 40/240, 76gr IMR 4895
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LUEPOLD 4-12X50 VX-R CDS, FIRE DOT, WIND PLEX

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PostSubject: Re: FIRST ATTEMPT SMOKELESS   May 12th 2014, 7:30 am

I didn't know that about the bushing system. I thought it had a removable cap and you just put a new one in if it wore out. I'm still new to sml so I may have missed something. If Slufoot and Carlos recommend the vent liner than I have nothing to worry about. Thank you for sharing your information.

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