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PostSubject: TC White Mountain Carbine   August 27th 2014, 7:36 pm

jimmyz in vb, va. just joined. bought a .50 TC White Mountain Carbine new several years ago and never got around to using it. Been hunting deer for 40 years with rifles & shotguns in PA, WV & IL and taken plenty. Lived here for 20 years, but got a first-time opportunity to hunt private land in VA this year. Thought I'd take advantage of early 1 NOV opening day by trying out the muzzleloader. Is anyone familiar enough with this rifle to give some good advice how to get started, best powder, bullets, caps, loads, cleaning kit etc.? Question
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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   August 27th 2014, 8:08 pm

Welcome to the forum Jimmy! Great to have a fellow sidelock shooter with us! We've been growing pretty decently with the sidelock shooters lately.

First off, to hell with cleaning kits! They normally give you junk that you don't need, or straight up stuff that's not for your rifle.

Powder horn or powder flask
short starter " pop the ball into the muzzle easier"

Carlos over in the classifieds should have plenty of #11 caps for your if that's what your rifle takes.

For cleaning, a sidelock is very easy, but you must have a Nipple wrench first before ever attempting to load/shoot a sidelock.


Round ball loads: 70-100gr Goex 2f or pyrodex rs, .015" - .018" patches lubed with Mink Oil from www.trackofthewolf.com is an excellent combo. A .490" round ball will effectively take down a whitetail out to 100 yards with lung shots.
For conical bullets, the 370gr maxiballs seem to do real good in those TC Sidelocks and they smack with authority.

Some items to help you get going, These are just examples, always shop around for better prices.
https://secure.tcarms.com/store/deluxe-universal-nipple-wrench-cat-no-7084.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/adjustable-black-powder-measure-cat-no-7040.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/cleaning-jag-cat-no-9056.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/delux-bullet-starter-cat-no-7054.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/ramrod-accessory-kit-cat-no-7234.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/star-7-capper-for-11-caps-cat-no-7015.html

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/u-view-powder-flask-cat-no-7224.html

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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   August 28th 2014, 7:54 pm

Be sure to check the twist in the barrel. The White Mountain Carbine has a 21" barrel, and some of the later production models including the complete camouflaged model had a fast twist of 1 in 21" twist. These were designed to use sabot bulllets, CVA Powerbelts, and minie & maxi balls.

Most of the rest of the TC side locks had 1 in 48" twist to use round balls and conicals. The PA Hunter had a i in 66" twist for round ball only.

Check out the twist to see if yours has a 1 in 48" or a 1 in 21" twist. You'd be better off with conicals over round balls if its a 1 in 21" twist.

Hope this helps,
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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   August 28th 2014, 8:35 pm

With that short barrel 3F Goex may be a better choice than 2F. Try both and shoot the one that is most accurate.

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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   September 27th 2014, 3:32 pm

The T/C White Mountain Carbine has been out of production for many years. It came in .45, .50, and .54 calibers. I own several in both .50, and .54 caliber. The twist rates of these muzzleloaders, and I am quoting from T/C catalog, #19, from 1992, and catalog # 21, from1994. Catalog # 19 .50 caliber has a 1 in 20" twist. .54 caliber has a 1 in 48" twist. Catalog #21 .50 caliber has a 1 in 38" twist, .54 has a 1 in 48" twist. I do not have an older catalog than #19 to quote the .45 caliber models, as they were made prior to 1992, but I believe they are a 1 in 48" twist. If yours has a QLA muzzle, it is a later model, and chances are it is a 1 in 38" twist, which is good for conicals. The earlier WMC's without QLA usually have the 1 in 20" twist. I have never seen in print where the .50 caliber WMC came in a 1 in 48" twist.
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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   September 27th 2014, 7:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: TC White Mountain Carbine   September 28th 2014, 1:43 am

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