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PostSubject: crud ring question   September 27th 2014, 6:46 pm

I was shooting today and thought I had it dialed in pretty good and then all of a sudden it started shooting about 6 inches high and right! After wasting a lot of time and bullets I discovered I had a pretty bad crud ring and the bullet wasn't seating completely. Even after I swabbed it was still a little noticeable but I was able to seat the bullet and the last two shots were better. I ran out of time and couldn't shoot more. This is the first time I've had a crud ring this bad and it caught me off guard ,so to speak Very Happy. The big question is, would the bullet being slightly off the powder cause it to be that much off?
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 27th 2014, 7:36 pm

More info would be helpful. What gun, powder, etc.?

777 is notorious for crud rings.

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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 27th 2014, 7:38 pm

easily, you are building up a much higher pressure spike with the crud ring causing the bullet to sit so high above the powder charge.
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 27th 2014, 7:49 pm

Use Black horn 209 and you won't get a crud/burn ring and besides you won't have to swab until your done for the day.
I've gotten 40/45 shots off before I swabbed and that 40/45th bullet went down the barrel as easy as the first.

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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 27th 2014, 8:35 pm

@patocazador wrote:
More info would be helpful. What gun, powder, etc.?

777 is notorious for crud rings.
I was shooting a CVA Kodiak with 90 grains of pyrodex. I've been shooting 777 for several years that someone gave to me but I ran out last year so decided  to use up the several  bottles of pyrodex I have. I may have had the crud ring with 777 but i don't remember it being that bad. Knowing the slight off seat charge could cause that much pressure makes me feel a little better (If that makes sense Smile ) I know it wasn't me,the scope,etc. I'll be more mindful of the ring from now on. Thanks for all of the replies
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 28th 2014, 9:45 am

What primer were you using thats a big factor as well.  In my experience the hotter the primer the more crud ring coupled with more primer fouling.
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   September 30th 2014, 9:58 pm

They're Winchester 209 primers. No other name. I had been using Winchester primers for 777. I don't recall them leaving that much of a ring. May be the primers.
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   October 1st 2014, 5:25 pm

Blue box or the 777 primers the blue box are full strength and will produce more fouling.
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PostSubject: Re: crud ring question   October 1st 2014, 7:13 pm

I have a Kodiak 45 cal, that I shoot Sabotless using BH 209 100 gr of powder, with the winchester 209 primers in the Blue box, When I take it to the range testing different bullets, I will shoot 30 to 40 times with out needing to swab the barrel. just clean the breech plug with a drill bit and start shooting again.



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