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PostSubject: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 11:53 am

I don't know why I didn't think of this before headslap

My CVA Hawken .58cal is a great rifle and when I got that 12g shotgun barrel, I couldn't use it due to the different style tang ( Square is installed) while the shotgun uses a button style. Well some months back I got the flintlock which has a direct slip into tang style tang attached to the breech plug, I borrowed this concept except I kept the tolerances much tighter and took the button section on the breech plug and carefully ground it square and got it mounted to the Hawken stock perfectly!

I also had to grab a spare wedge key and thin it out as the stock channel is bedded and the tenon sits a little higher on the shotgun barrel. Very easy to do and I got a nice tight fit in the channel and tang area. Hammer hits the nipple a little far forward but it should not be an issue. I can always open up the hammer cup a little down the road if I have any trouble.

Hell, I may go shoot it today!

Going outside for pictures right.

VERY excited for grouse season!
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 12:07 pm

Ruffed grouse = tasty white meat. Fill up the freezer. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 12:50 pm

yeah but SOB is that slow loading!! LOL my dad and brother will mow them down after my first shot. So much fun though! I did 30-40-50 yards with 80gr Pyrodex Select and 1 1/8oz # 7 1/2 shot. Lots of loads to play with before hunting season, but so far, I am very happy.

I did have almost cry after my first shot. The studs holding the under rib and ramrod broke off! My dad has to go out of town tomorrow so hes going to take it to a smith and see if he and remove the broken studs from the barrel and install new ones. If not, Plastic ramrod strapped to ATV works fine for now LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 1:22 pm

throw up some pics Jon....seems the BP bird shooting is becoming a big thing lately  A few local forums near me had a lot of people using a BP shot gun for turkey season...

when you put up pics include the cups also...of all the game birds..grouse has it all over the rest...except woodcock but you need a dozen per person..lol...

put an apple in the breast cavity and slow roast it on the grill....yyummmmmm...
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 3:02 pm



50 yard target. Not bad but could use improvement LOL. I'd never shoot anything that far anyway with this shotgun. Not even a modern SG now that I think of it. 30 to 35 is about normal for grouse where we hunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 3:12 pm

What size shot? and weight of the pellets?

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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 3:56 pm

7 1/2 and I used 1 1/8oz. Im sure powder charge increase would help as well. This is all new to me, so one thing at a time until the recoil gets a little uncomfortable.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 6:24 pm

Sometimes using a slower powder like 2F or 1F and/or using less powder gives denser patterns. However, that pattern looks darned good to me to be at 50 yards. My guns won't hold a tight pattern past 35 yards.

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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 20th 2015, 7:21 pm

Nice looking shotgun you have there buddy Exclamation Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 21st 2015, 1:15 pm

good grief! They charged $120 just to repair those broken off studs.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 21st 2015, 2:00 pm

Wow!!! I recently retired from the ANG and one of my jobs as a machinist was to remove stuck screws. $40 per stud means they probably had a hard time removing them and might have had to do some additional work besides simply removing the studs...they might have had to use a small end mill, do a plunge cut, install an oversize plug, and then drill and tap new holes...a tough job with small shallow blind hole that needs threaded...you can always ask what was required.
On a side note, where did you find a 58 cal barrel for a CVA Hawken? I'd love to have one for mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 21st 2015, 2:03 pm

I used a 58cal barrel from a cva mountain rifle. You have to cut a new doevetail because the 2 on it already, are no where near the hawken slot for the wedge key lol. I got pretty good at with after doing sights and tenons.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 21st 2015, 10:45 pm

well, when CVA did those studs, they also had silver solder inside the barrel section! The smith said when you do that, it changes the brittleness of the stud and makes it to hard. He tested the remaining stud with a small hammer and he said it just broke right off very easily. Its now been fixed with regular style screws like you see on every sidelock with the under rib. Looks very clean!

One thing that pissed me off was they went through the barrel and wrenched my choke down super tight to where I can not remove it with my fingers. I'll have to loosen that up tomorrow as I have to remove it in order to load because its a full choke and impossible to load any other way.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 22nd 2015, 7:32 am

Very slow loading that way. Look for a double barrel with cylinder chokes (no constriction) for your next grouse gun and use that one for turkeys.

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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 22nd 2015, 8:43 pm

I been doing some thinking on a shotgun barrel for one of my sidelocks to turkey hunt with. I like what I saw here with your Jon.
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 23rd 2015, 6:19 am

yes its a nice shotgun by all means....and Pete has a beauty also...a side by side...thats a real nice one also...Jon did some nice work to the one he has...real classy looking...
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PostSubject: Re: Its ready!! BP Shotgun   May 23rd 2015, 7:51 am

Nice looking shotgun, Jon.
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