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PostSubject: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 7:54 pm

would a 50 cal. round ball put a black bear down with a high shoulder shot at 50 - 75 yards
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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 7:59 pm

With good shot placement, I wouldn't be afraid to use it.
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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 8:00 pm

I'm using a .50 PRB this fall for bear. If possible i'm going to try for a double lung like I always do. However, bears don't always cooperate. I wouldn't be real happy with having to take a frontal shot if the bear was coming straight in at me.

So, I won't be trying to call one in. I'll try to sneak in when one is feeding on natural food like berries. No baiting here.

To answer your question. I wouldn't try a high shoulder shot with a .50 PRB. Maybe a .58 PRB.

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 8:04 pm

IMO it depends on the size of the bear.

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 8:41 pm

I hope so... I may be trying it soon if I am very, very lucky. Cool

But, I would choose my shot carefully and only go from the side/heart. 
I would probably need to wait for a 50-60 yard shot- furthest.

They are legal to hunt with at .50 calibre for black bear in most states I 
know that allow it. I would avoid grizzlies. But, those are federally 
protected anyway, I think.

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 4th 2016, 8:51 pm

Thankfully, no grizz in Colorado.

So they say.

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 5th 2016, 7:18 am

They are in the process right now of delisting the grizzly in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho outside the core zone near Yellowstone. Wyoming will get the OK for the highest percentage (58%) of bears to be killed by hunting. Montana the next (34%) and then Idaho will be able to kill 8%.

Of course the Anti's are fighting it.

 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/apnewsbreak-states-divvy-yellowstone-area-grizzly-hunt-36074212

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 5th 2016, 7:54 am

I think the drop on the spot high shoulder shots interrupt the central nervous system (neck/backbone) even without hitting it.  Hydraulic or shock or whatever you want to call it. When I hunted a lot with a scoped CF I shot the bone that joins the neck and the back bone. Pole axed 'em. Given the right situation of accurate load/rifle, range, rest, position, light etc I'd shoot for the same spot on deer, moose, elk or black bear with a .50 PRB and a hefty charge of BP. If there were any question of hitting that spot it'll be a double lung shot. 
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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 5th 2016, 3:01 pm

@56 kodiak shooter wrote:
would a 50 cal. round ball put a black bear down with a high shoulder shot at 50 - 75 yards

Depends:

Size of bear, powder charge, angle of bear to hunter, shooting uphill, downhill, and distance.

I have always considered a high shoulder shot risky at best. Why not shoot about a third of the way up behind the front leg when it is forward?

I have witnessed a .50ca RB deflect off a shoulder blade. Remember bear have thick hair and hide which will reduce velocity quick.

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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 9th 2016, 7:56 am

Put it through the lungs and it won't go far.  Shooting several blackies and a a ton of deer I've found that IMO given the same shot placement through the lungs that a blackie succumbs much quicker. could be they don't have the lung capacity of a deer and they breath at a faster rate????
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PostSubject: Re: 50 cal. round ball   January 9th 2016, 3:58 pm

Yes it will without reservation as long as it is properly hit.
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