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PostSubject: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 11th 2016, 9:30 pm

Hi I'm new to this forum and I'm looking for advice on a good conical bullet for a Cabela's Investarms 54 Hawken. 54's are harder to find now days and I've tried many that are available with mixed results in accuracy. The conical I had the best accuracy with was the Buffalo Bullet Co. 390 gr. However as far as I know they are no longer around. I am looking to hunt deer and black bear with this gun and could use some info on a good load. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 8:31 am

1 in 48. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 10:20 am

may check out the hornady great plains bullet or consider buying a lyman maxi ball mould and cast your self. Otherwise, a .54cal patched round ball is a very affordable projectile and very reliable.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 10:47 am

@FrontierGander wrote:
may check out the hornady great plains bullet or consider buying a lyman maxi ball mould and cast your self. Otherwise, a .54cal patched round ball is a very affordable projectile and very reliable.

What Jon said!

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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 5:11 pm

Thank you guys for the info. I tried the Hornady great plains and they didn't do so well, I've been using 100 grins of powder tho, maybe its too much, I'll try a smaller charge. Strong Eagle, I don't get what bullet length has to do with it. Forgive me but I'm not to educated on traditional muzzleloaders yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 5:18 pm

Also, I bought a mould for Lee R.E.A.L bullets, they just dropped down the barrel and I tried the maxi balls from Track of the Wolf they were kind of loose in the barrel too. I was thinking of trying minie bullets.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 5:41 pm

for sure you need to back that charge down to around 70-80gr and see how those great plains bullets do.

If its like the other 3 I had, the rear section of the barrel has a slight bell and loosens up. Its pure hell getting a lead conical to stay in place.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 6:29 pm

Thanks, I'll try the lesser charge. Will 70-80 grains be good for deer and black bear?
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 6:32 pm

yes with that big conical, thats more than enough powder. Even with a round ball that's an elk load.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 6:41 pm

Great, thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 12th 2016, 8:16 pm

That's interesting, I will check the length of my bullets. Thanks for explaining.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken   Need help with a good conical for a 54 Hawken EmptyOctober 25th 2016, 8:59 am

Thanks for all the help. I shot my Hawken this past week with the 425gr, great plains and 80gr of powder. The gun was pretty much right on at 50 yards. I have to order some more bullets so I can fine tune it out to about 100 yards. Thanks again guys.
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