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PostSubject: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyOctober 17th 2016, 2:18 pm

Today I tried for the first time Black MZ in a CVA Wolf. I weighed my charges, at 90 grains. (Around 100 grains volume). I used T/C Mag Express sabots with Hornady XTP 240 grain bullets. Shooting at 50 yards, as that is the maximum I have, I was very pleased with the results. I did heavily compress the loads. After making tweaks to the scope, I was grouping well with some shots touching each other. I did not experience fouling, and crud ring like with some other powders. Cleanup was easy also. I also used for the first time metric O rings under the primer that I got from McMaster. No blowback. All in all a good shooting session.
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyOctober 19th 2016, 7:54 pm

With that powder, you may want to consider a hot primer like CCI Mag or Federal 209A as the weather-temps drop in the next month or two.

Which primer do you currently use? If it's a mid-strength like Winchester 209s, you may be fine this late season...... depends!
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyOctober 19th 2016, 8:08 pm

No need for a hot primer with black mz, it sets off nicely with just a #11 cap.
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyOctober 20th 2016, 3:13 pm

using regular CCI 209 shotgun primers with O rings. So far they work great with no blowback.
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyOctober 23rd 2016, 8:39 am

When the much colder weather hits, the hotter primers are generally more effective in humid climates..... like where I'm at, surrounded by the Great Lakes.

Chuckhawks.com had a nice article on the Black MZ powder and gave it a thumbs-up. More feedback on field/hunting use this season is needed.
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyDecember 22nd 2016, 4:58 pm

sportsmans warehouse opened a new store here and had black mz for 9.99 a can. I couldn't resist, figured I'd try it out. I used it in my .54 in-line, .50 in-line, two .50 sidelocks with no hangfires or issues, all #11 caps. I also tried it in my .54 flint, first with a 10 grain 3f goex booster,then without, No hang or misfires." I was surprised".It was a 60 deg. sunny day. didn't try for accuracy but seemed to be close to pyrodex rs or goex 3f. I tried to flash it in the pan of my flint [no go] as to be expected. Im not ready to hunt with it yet but considering how hard real bp can be to get, Ill keep playing. Results may be different on a cold wet day.
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PostSubject: Re: Black MZ. Used For The First Time Today.   Black MZ.  Used For The First Time Today. EmptyDecember 22nd 2016, 7:20 pm

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No need for a hot primer with black mz, it sets off nicely with just a #11 cap.

Exactly!!!


i've been using Black MZ since it came out and now use it almost exclusively.  Black MZ ignites very easily even in cold weather.   My conventional guns use #11 caps as do my TC Black Diamond and Fire Hawk.   i've never had a misfire related a primer.  

Black MZ likes a tight fitting sabot seated hard on the powder.  For round ball i use a tight fitting patch.
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