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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 18th 2016, 4:05 pm

I have been very lucky. I still have my first BP rifle after all these years. 
Dad gave it to me and I have fond memories of my Great Uncle Elmer 
and I puttering around with it. I still use it regularly. It is over 30 years old 
and one owner.

I have never had a bad one (knock on wood). But,
I have had some with distinctive 'personalities.' 
And, like a date, some worked out and some didn't. 

Ever had a date who could dance, but the two of you together
just did not move well as one? A few rifles have been like that. 
Good girls with whom I just did not mesh. 

But, the dancing was always fun. queen

Eagle, sounds like you had a bad girl that you learned to love. jocolor

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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 18th 2016, 5:22 pm

I started out with Maxi's out of my Lyman Plains Rifle....but quickly went to r.b........and no, never had a bad one until I bought a semi-custom officer's fusil that is jug choked and learned the hard way that it is a turkey gun rather than a deer gun......or if necessary best for dispatching French Marines or Huron warriors with buck and ball. t up

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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 19th 2016, 10:34 am

I visited a local Rendezvous on a whim. A fellow was selling several inexpensive muzzleloaders. It turned out he lived close to me and I stopped at his house. I bought an Army San Marco "Hawken" style rifle and an old, percussion "Kentucky" rifle. The Kentucky had a 2-piece stock and was made in Spain. Both shot quite well but were as ugly as aarvark's ass.
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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 19th 2016, 4:00 pm

The "Kentucky rifle`was maple, but had a grain like cheap pine. But it was just perfect for me as it was the very first muzzleloader I ever owned.
I have a CVA that Frontier Gander (Jonathan) worked on. It is very accurate at 50 yards using anything from 0.015 cloth patches, 50 gr of 3F and 490 balls to commercial 0.015 patches, 70 gr of 3F and 490 balls. It is impressive for an inexpensive muzzleloader.
Higher cost has landed me higher levels of aesthetics but not more accuracy.
BY the way, I made an error on the last post. The Aarvark's front end is just as ugly as its hind end, unless you are an Aardvark, of course.
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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 19th 2016, 7:42 pm

That thing looks like my dog! Especially those ears lol
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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 20th 2016, 8:38 am

Jerry does your mother-in-law know how to shoot muzzleloaders?

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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 20th 2016, 8:52 am

I originally thought my 1st muzzleloader was a subpar buy (CVA Plainsman 1:66 twist 24" barrel and all wood.
I sold it two years later and now wish I had never parted with it.

Now I have a Traditions Shenandoah 1:66 twist with 32" barrel and full wood stock. I've had that one for 13 years and wish I have never bought it.  I kick myself in the pants because at that time Cabelas just received a bunch of CVA Mountain Rifles (half-stock) in 66-twist and I bought the Shenandoah instead.

One of my dumbest ML purchases ever!!! My 2nd dumbest was my Pedersoli Rolling Block 54-cal. I had no idea the trigger guard was so small and that first winter with it saw below-normal temps in hunting season. My index finger was like a block of ice.... Mad

Sold that gun for my T/C Omega the following summer. Bought a Knight Vision two years ago and no complaints with either one. Life is good once again..... except for that darn Shenandoah and it's pinned stock. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 20th 2016, 5:56 pm

Only ML I owned for the 25 years my wife gave me for my birthday:  Cabela .54 Hawken.  Has that awful 1 in 48 twist.  Still it'll throw round ball into a 1" circle at 50 yard, good considering my eyeballs and irons.  I have to keep the charge down to about 70gr of 777.  It's taken a doe or two and few hogs over the years.

I put on an upgrade rear sight.  Otherwise, all original.  I love that gun.  Named it Thumper.  She's a beauty (Hawken I mean) and so's the wife!

Recently aquired an Accura V2 so I could mount a scope. Improve my odds.
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PostSubject: Re: was your first round ball rife a bad one?   was your first round ball rife a bad one? EmptyDecember 20th 2016, 6:42 pm

Nuttin wrong with a 1:48 twist at all!  Now the cabelas hawken IMO is not my favorite, my dad has one and if it were mine, I'd have bent that inconsistent barrel around a tree by now.

70gr 777 is a pretty good load, around 85gr 2fg goex if you compare them side by side.

I've never really owned a bad round ball gun, some had their stubborn areas, but overall, they were accurate and reliable, just each one has its pros and cons.
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