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Scout_.54



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PostSubject: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 20th 2016, 11:28 pm

I have a Thompson Center Scout .54 caliber muzzleloader that will not fire. The gun was handed down to me and was quite dirty and had some fouling when I received it. I cleaned the gun up well and loaded it with 90 grains of pyrodex and a Hornady sabot. I popped off two or three #11 magnum caps and got no result. I pulled the sabot and dumped the powder out and cleaned the gun thoroughly once again. I repeated this process twice more and even put the gun in the oven on a low heat setting to bake any moisture out of the gun to prevent from fouling the powder. I am assuming the nipple is plugged with crud and so I am not getting a charge to my powder. The gun did not come with a tool to remove the nipple/breech plug. I borrowed a nipple wrench manufactured for .54 caliber nipples from a friend and it does not fit into the uniquely shaped action of the Scout. How do I go about resolving this issue??? I would like to get this gun back into service.

I appreciate any advice you may have to offer!
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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 21st 2016, 3:41 pm

In order to remove the breech plug/nipple from the Scout you must first remove the barrel from the frame. 

Disassembly instructions for the TC Scout:

http://www.bevfitchett.us/thompson-center-scout-rifle/assembly-disassembly-of-your-tc-scout-muzzleloader.html

You may need a new breech plug/nipple:

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/667/1/PLUG-TC-SCOUT-11
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Scout_.54



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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 21st 2016, 6:16 pm

I had broken the gun down completely. My issue is that the way the action is configured I cannot get the nipple wrench to fit onto the nipple.

I have purchased a new nipple/breech plug, the very same from track of the wolf website.

I can't install my new breech plug/nipple without first getting the old one off.

I made a small attempt at getting it off with a pliers but was afraid of damaging anything or marring the gun cosmetically.
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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 21st 2016, 7:41 pm

The barrel should remove completely from the receiver. Remove the forend and under is an allen head screw into receiver,remove this screw and barrel should fall free. You may need a little persuasion if gun has been neglected.
      After barrel is removed a deep well socket(or a crescent wrench if not rusted) can be used on hex of breech plug.
       If badly stuck you may need a vice to hold barrel, then pour boiling hot water down barrel. The plug should come out then with a little force.
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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 21st 2016, 7:47 pm

Also for future reference,before loading hold muzzle end up to light and look thru from rear. if you cant see thru do not bother loading,it will not fire. Disassemble and clean breech plug. Especially if the gun has been in storage for a while.
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Scout_.54



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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   December 23rd 2016, 4:50 pm

Thank you. I will give that a try!
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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   July 1st 2018, 1:57 pm

@Scout_.54 wrote:
I have a Thompson Center Scout .54 caliber muzzleloader that will not fire. The gun was handed down to me and was quite dirty and had some fouling when I received it. I cleaned the gun up well and loaded it with 90 grains of pyrodex and a Hornady sabot. I popped off two or three #11 magnum caps and got no result. I pulled the sabot and dumped the powder out and cleaned the gun thoroughly once again. I repeated this process twice more and even put the gun in the oven on a low heat setting to bake any moisture out of the gun to prevent from fouling the powder. I am assuming the nipple is plugged with crud and so I am not getting a charge to my powder. The gun did not come with a tool to remove the nipple/breech plug. I borrowed a nipple wrench manufactured for .54 caliber nipples from a friend and it does not fit into the uniquely shaped action of the Scout. How do I go about resolving this issue??? I would like to get this gun back into service.

I appreciate any advice you may have to offer!
I know this is an old post but thought I'd respond in case it helps someone who is just looking for an answer.  I find the age of a post usually doesn't matter to me when I'm looking for something myself so here goes.

I have a .50 caliber Scout and was having a ball shooting it and putting the balls in the same spot as the Maxi's when I managed to load one without a powder charge (again but only the first time with this gun). 

All my usual methods of getting the ball out weren't really working because of the way this gun is built.  My newly purchased CO2 ball discharger and even my air compressor in my garage couldn't do it.  I tried clamping a pair of .135" nitro cards over the side vents even.  

So, this morning, I used my little pan priming tool and dropped 5 little 3-grain squirts of 4F Swiss into the breech thru the hole there after removing the nipple.  I put a cap on it and snapped it with no luck.  More caps and still no discharge! Finally, I  removed the nipple again and squirted one more 3-grain dose of 4F into the breech.  

This time I replaced the nipple and bolted the barrel back into place and, without wasting time putting the forearm on, gave it a couple of whacks with the heel of my hand on the breech with the muzzle pointed skywards.  I put a cap on and pressed the trigger.  

Ka-whoom!  The 370 grain maxi plowed into the 100 yard berm with a puff of dust.  Now, I'm headed out to the back of the house to flush and brush out the bore and chamber area until it comes out clean.  

I had lucked onto a load of 40 grains of 3F Triple-Seven and a .380 round ball with an .010" Ox-Yoke patch which put the ball into the same bulls-eye at 25 yds. as the 80 grain charge of the same propellant only using a 370 grain maxi.  So, I am hoping to take it out again and repeat this performance without plugging up the little chamber that I didn't know existed.  I will see!  

But at least I found out a way to get the ball out short of having to resort to using the method of screwing into the ball.  I have never tried it but know that the screw will serve to expand the ball and make it even more tightly jammed than it was before.  I learned about this using "Easy-Out" tools to try to take out stuck and broken off bolts.  They are a last-ditch effort the way I see it.

Hope this helps someone.
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PostSubject: Re: Breech Plug Removal T/C Scout   July 2nd 2018, 3:36 pm

THIS IS HOW I TAKE MINE OUT A 7/16 SOCKET I BELIEVE IT IS THEY STILL SELL THE BRECH PLU WITH NIPPLE
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