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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 7th 2017, 2:23 pm

@FrontierGander wrote:
I've taken elk & at 150 yards and under with modern and traditional projectiles. Be prepared for 150 yards. With the thors or powerbelts, you are looking at only a 3" drop. Round ball is where you need practice. With a 54cal, you will expect 10 to 11 inches of drop. Basically, put the tip of the sight on the back and squeeze the trigger.

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 7th 2017, 7:00 pm

Did plenty of killing with 54 Cal. Patch and Ball.

I like between 200 and 250 Oz. of Lead but.

I shot this Hog at 80 yards 185Gr. 45Cal. XTP Bullet, pushed by 80Gr. Pyrodex RS

Ok I can't figure out how to post pictures but it is a 450 pound Boar Hog.



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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 7th 2017, 10:08 pm

@oneshot 1 wrote:

I shot this Hog at 80 yards 185Gr. 45Cal. XTP Bullet, pushed by 80Gr. Pyrodex RS

Ok I can't figure out how to post pictures but it is a 450 pound Boar Hog.

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That's OK.

Look here- I shot this moose at 489 yards using a .22 calibre round ball with 110 grains of 1F.    

I can't get the picture posted, but it is a 1,850 bull moose. It had gold antlers. LaughingLaughingLaughing 


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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 7:20 am

Ok try this

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 7:32 am

@oneshot 1 wrote:
Ok try this



cheers  He scores! Nice one. 

I still can't find my moose pic.  Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 8:09 am

"I still can't find my moose pic. "

And you never will.  Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 8:17 am

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"I still can't find my moose pic. "

And you never will.  Suspect

You are probably right. I did find one moose pic with me in it though... 


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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 11:39 am

I don't believe all the stories about Powerbelts. I think the problem is guys using girly weight bullets.

So, my plan is to use the 338gr Platinum for muley's and the 405gr copper for bear and elk.

I bet they don't fail. I'll use 80gr of Swiss powder. Gun is a nitride CVA MR.

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   August 8th 2017, 12:20 pm

I dunno about Power Belts.

I've used 'em and they load easy but I don't recall how they performed on game.

I've used the sabot bullet, the all lead one, and they knock not out of deer.

G-friend hit a small button buck in the neck with an all lead h.p. sabot and
near took it's head clean off.

I think it was a .50 caliber rifle with a .45 bullet.
Can't recall it was so long and many g-friends ago.

The g-friend I have now does not shoot but does not fuss over my guns and
hunting.
Else she would not be a g-friend. Very Happy

And she has a Jag in the garage, a $400,000 buck house with a 3 acre bass
pond in the back.
A 30 foot cuddy cabin boat in the driveway.

I ain't stupid ya know. cheers

( I have a home on 15 acres, 14 is woods and deer, squirrel, rabbits, .................... and a
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 10:44 am

Hello from North Louisiana... I just took a deer with my muzzle loader for the first time with 100 vol of BH209 and Powerbelt Areolite 250 gr and it destroyed my deer. I would post up pics but not sure I can since I'm new to the forum. The damage is extensive. 

I have a T/C Encore 209x50 mag that I use with BH209 and WIN 209 Shotshell primers. I need a bullet that will do less damage and still take a deer down.

Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 10:48 am

Hello BRC, Email me the pictures and i'll be more than happy to post them for  you!

I love that 250gr Aerolite, huge holes!

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 10:58 am

I think we found the problem, I was using a Super T loader the 4 n 1 clear to measure BH209 and its off by 10 vol weight. If I use the brass CVA measure for 80vol weight and power it into the super t quick measure it shows 70 vol weight.

When I shot that deer with the PB Aerolite 250 I measured 100vol of BH209 in the super T loader measure so that would have equated to 110vol if I'm correct. I think it was a combination of too much powder and bullet that caused the damage. Never expected that damage and the deer ran 30 feet or more.

I want to exclusively use my Muzzle loader for thick brush North Louisiana Deer but If it keeps destroying meat like this I just can't.

My friend used his 45/70 and it do this kind of damage to his deer.


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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 10:59 am

@FrontierGander wrote:
Hell BRC, Email me the pictures and i'll be more than happy to post them for  you!

I love that 250gr Aerolite, huge holes!

Jonathan@frontiermuzzleloading.com
I sent them. One of the entry and one of the hide pulled back of entry front left shoulder.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 11:01 am

thank you! I will post the pictures in the Projectiles section and you can fill us in on the info and hunt story if you wouldnt mind.

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 24th 2017, 1:49 pm

Sure.

I bought an t/c encore from a friend of mine and so I inherited all of equipment since he dropped down to a .45 cal muzzle loader.  I sold my Rem 700 .270 and a few other things to get the encore. He gave me the Super-t 4 n 1 loaders and a brass measure from CVA I think. He said that he had the gun zero'd using 100vol measured with the super t loader of BH209 and the PB Aerolite 250grn bullets so thats what I have been using. btw this is my first deer kill with this setup.

Most of my shots are single shots so that why I sold the 270 and I like the idea of a single shot muzzle loader. 

Wed night me and my daughter went out and bout 5:15pm we started seeing deer but they are hard to get a good shot on due to the dense palmettos that we hunt. I had this buck walk about between two trees at around 130 yards or so and I took the shot. I seen him jump and dart about 30 feet and heard a crash. We still had lots of deer around us so we gave it about an hour and got down. We couldn't find the deer that I thought I had shot and we couldn't find any blood trail that night. I knew the meat would be good in the am temps were to be in the low 30's so I said we wait to find him in the am. That am she and I went out to hunt and got down to see if we could find blood and we did a-little of it not much and we followed it to a fell tree where the buck was laid up in the middle of it. 

Had to drag him out. I knew from the smell I was in trouble along with corn coming out the wound that the bullet had fragmented. The pictures will explain it all.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 6:05 pm

Might try dropping the
charge down to 80gr and the bullet might not blow up. A feller that knows a lot more than me about muzzleloaders sent me some PB's to play with. Told me not to shoot over 80gr of BH 209 and they would work fine.  Congrats on what's left of the deer.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 6:24 pm

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Might try dropping the
charge down to 80gr and the bullet might not blow up. A feller that knows a lot more than me about muzzleloaders sent me some PB's to play with. Told me not to shoot over 80gr of BH 209 and they would work fine.  Congrats on what's left of the deer.

Hey with a great name like "Turdbird", maybe you should listen folks ....  lol!  That's almost as good as some of Pete's names.   t up

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 6:31 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 6:39 pm

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@Turdbird wrote:
Might try dropping the
charge down to 80gr and the bullet might not blow up. A feller that knows a lot more than me about muzzleloaders sent me some PB's to play with. Told me not to shoot over 80gr of BH 209 and they would work fine.  Congrats on what's left of the deer.

Hey with a great name like "Turdbird", maybe you should listen folks ....  lol!  That's almost as good as some of Pete's names.   t up

You don't need to listen to me just do some research on PB's. Slow works, Fast don't.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 6:43 pm

That's a good reason, try these damn goats ...  affraid  "Turdgoat"   Question  Hey Pete got you a new name ....

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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   November 25th 2017, 7:00 pm

Turd eating goat  sounds right.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   December 1st 2017, 7:39 pm

I have a cva wolf that is unbelievably consistant with the powerbelt 295 gr. hp. even out to almost 200 yards. I spent a pile of money on other bullets and blackhorn powder too but in the end I came right back to the triple 7 pellets and powerbelts, taking a buck at 187 yards a few weeks ago. I agree they are too soft, but I can count on them to be where I want at a distance with this gun. And yes they are too expensive. pretty much all your hunting equipment is.
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PostSubject: Re: Powerbelt vs sabot   January 10th 2018, 5:47 pm

I'm a big Powerbelt fan... you just have to use the right bullet for the right game, but you have to do that with any gun. 270 grain Platinum with 110 grains of Black MZ is my hunting load in my Accura for deer and hogs.
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