Muzzleloading Forum
 
HomeGalleryFAQSearchRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
conner
Site Moderator &
Site Moderator &
avatar

Male Number of posts : 1256
Age : 77
Location : Lehi Utah
Registration date : 2015-10-20

PostSubject: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   September 13th 2017, 7:19 am

SUBJECT: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED

Just received pictures of the newest build; a J&S Hawken using an original GRRW barrel in .58 caliber
(has the jug choking).  Ron Paull did some of his special touches to this one.


_________________



Back to top Go down
View user profile http://grrwca..com/
Smokin' Joe
FML's
FML's
avatar

Male Number of posts : 1728
Age : 67
Location : Elk River, MN
Registration date : 2011-11-23

PostSubject: Re: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   September 13th 2017, 8:20 am

Beautiful rifle.  It will be many rifles down the line before I can build to this quality.  The rifle has two of my favorite features: 1) Full stock,  2) .58 cal.  Wish she was in my possession! Very Happy     By the way: What is referenced "Jug Choking"???

_________________
Joe

Semper Fi……..

Cabelas Investarms  Hawken .58 cal. Flintlock
Isaac Haines .50 cal. Flintlock
Pennsylvania Fowler 20ga. (.62 cal.)  Flintlock
CVA Accura MR .50 cal.
T/C Encore .50 cal.


Last edited by Smokin' Joe on September 13th 2017, 10:40 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
conner
Site Moderator &
Site Moderator &
avatar

Male Number of posts : 1256
Age : 77
Location : Lehi Utah
Registration date : 2015-10-20

PostSubject: Re: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   September 13th 2017, 10:14 am

Smokin' Joe wrote:
Beautiful rifle.  It will be many rifles down the line before I can build to this quality.  The rifle has two of my favorite qualities: 1) Full stock,  2) .58 cal.  Wish she was in my possession! Very Happy     By the way: What is referenced "Jug Choking"???

GRRW purchased their rifling machine from Bill Large (an old machine used for .50 caliber machine gun barrels) converted to making muzzleloading barrels by Bill. Now after rebuilding the machine GRRW could make their own barrels. After the first few barrels and getting use to how the machine operated they made a mistake when rifling one barrel. On the last cut the reamer jumped a few inches from the end of the barrel before being removed. Doc White was called to look at this swell per say near the muzzle, he said "breech it and lets see how it shoots". It shot as good or better than expected. "Plumb Center" was born using the new idea of a choked barrel like a shotgun bore. Doc sponsored through his business GRRW a team that used these barrels in competition on a National level, setting records every meet they attended. It wasn't long before they were selling just barrels as everyone wanted a "Plumb Center" barrel for their comp guns.

The new sales (barrel business) started from a mistake when first making their own barrels. :rtup

Doc has invented number of rifle building jigs as well as other tools for gun building to even one's used in the medical field (he still works 25 hours a week at the hospital at age 82). He has many patents on a number of different things, never stops designing or trying different ideas to improved the way things are done. His tooling and jigs in his shop cut the time by half in getting a rifle in the "white" stage, then its elbow grease for the finishing work.  :Grace

_________________



Back to top Go down
View user profile http://grrwca..com/
Smokin' Joe
FML's
FML's
avatar

Male Number of posts : 1728
Age : 67
Location : Elk River, MN
Registration date : 2011-11-23

PostSubject: Re: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   September 13th 2017, 10:33 am

Thanks, interesting!

_________________
Joe

Semper Fi……..

Cabelas Investarms  Hawken .58 cal. Flintlock
Isaac Haines .50 cal. Flintlock
Pennsylvania Fowler 20ga. (.62 cal.)  Flintlock
CVA Accura MR .50 cal.
T/C Encore .50 cal.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
BrownBear



Number of posts : 208
Age : 66
Location : Alaska
Registration date : 2017-04-19

PostSubject: Re: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   September 13th 2017, 11:21 am

conner wrote:
GRRW purchased their rifling machine from Bill Large (an old machine used for .50 caliber machine gun barrels) converted to making muzzleloading barrels by Bill. Now after rebuilding the machine GRRW could make their own barrels. After the first few barrels and getting use to how the machine operated they made a mistake when rifling one barrel. On the last cut the reamer jumped a few inches from the end of the barrel before being removed. Doc White was called to look at this swell per say near the muzzle, he said "breech it and lets see how it shoots". It shot as good or better than expected. "Plumb Center" was born using the new idea of a choked barrel like a shotgun bore. Doc sponsored through his business GRRW a team that used these barrels in competition on a National level, setting records every meet they attended. It wasn't long before they were selling just barrels as everyone wanted a "Plumb Center" barrel for their comp guns.

I can sure testify as a user that it works!  My 58 Hawken is the most accurate ML I've been around or owned, even after it's clear the previous owner did a lot of shooting.

Kinda interesting to develop loads for. A bare .575 ball sits on the muzzle and won't drop. A bare .570 ball hangs on the slightest imperfection.  It's not till you use a .562 that you can start with any reasonable effort a ball patched with .018 ticking. Yet you get it half way down the bore and it virtually falls to the breech under the weight of the rod, it's so loose. Never any threat to migrate off the powder while carried, and it certainly must "bump up" to fit the bore on firing.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED   

Back to top Go down
 
GRRW-CA J&S HAWKEN COMPLETED
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Frontier Muzzleloading :: Muzzleloading Topic :: Traditional Muzzleloading :: Muzzleloading Media-
Jump to: