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PostSubject: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 22nd 2017, 10:16 am

Last season I had a horrible misfire incident (chronicled below). I thought it was a moisture issue and I thought I addressed it.

I have shot the gun several times since the misfire incident and thought things were okeydokey. Not so, it seems.

I was out yesterday and had a hangfire. I shot 3 primers through it the night before and loaded it the morning of the hunt. It was a foggy morning, but we were generally above dewpoint (my scope never fogged or took on any moisture.

The hangfire was embarassing. I think the big doe I shot at laughed at me. The primer went "pop" not crack, then I had a fizzzing, then a gentle "pop!" with a little spark and lots of smoke. Seemed like it took a long time, but maybe just a 1-3 seconds.

When I fired those three primers, the last one gave a little blowback (I felt it on my arm). I thought maybe I had a dirty flash channel. I cleaned with a drill bit and I ran a pipe cleaner thingy through the flash hole. All were pretty darned clean. Hardly any carbon.

I test fired the gun after the hangfire and it went off just fine.

I just test fired 3 primers. The first two went crack but the third was a bit muffled and, perhaps unsurprisingly, had some blowback. I pulled it and looked at it and while the other two were nearly pristine, the third was pretty black.

The intermittent nature of this issue suggests to me that I got a bad batch of fiocchi primers. First step, I guess is a run to Field and Stream to hopefully find some CCI primers or W209. Any other thoughts?

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PostSubject: Re: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 22nd 2017, 10:45 am

Replace them, primers are cheap when compared to ball and powder.

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PostSubject: Re: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 22nd 2017, 6:50 pm

I'd ditch the fiocchi primers. I tried them in the past and wasn't to impressed.

CCI, winchester w209, federal 209a are the top performing primers for bh209.

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PostSubject: Re: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 22nd 2017, 7:13 pm

I just bought the Win 209 primers. Seems to be great. No blowback in testing. No problem firing.

Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 24th 2017, 3:19 pm

I use BH209 with CCI M primers, never had a misfire.  I think the Fiocchi primers are the culprit.

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PostSubject: Re: Bad Primers?   Bad Primers? EmptyOctober 24th 2017, 5:54 pm

@johnp034 wrote:
I use BH209 with CCI M primers, never had a misfire.  I think the Fiocchi primers are the culprit.

I think you (and others) are right. I examined my breech plug and all the Fiocchi primers fired. The plug was blackened and 2 of 6 primers fired were black and off looking. The w209's I tested were all pristine.

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