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OldMtnMan

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PostSubject: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 11:02

Well, this is quite a compromise for me. As I mentioned in my other recent posts I have to get away from the long barreled Hawkens. My back just can't handle it anymore. Plus, carrying a 9-10lb gun up these mountains is wearing me out.

I wanted a short barrel and weighed in the 7 1/2lb range. Of course it has to be a sidelock. At first I was going to get a .50 so i'd have the option of using conicals, but the more I thought of it I don't want to use anything but a PRB and Goex. I also want it to be a new gun with a warranty.

 So, that cut down the options to only one gun. the Lyman Deerstalker. 24' barrel and weighs 7 1/2lbs. Perfect. I got it in .54 so I have a bit more punch for bear and elk.

Here she is.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 11:13

That certainly will do the job.  Not sure about that sissy pad!
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 11:42

Yeah, I wouldn't have put the pad on it, but if I ever feel like shooting a conical it will be welcome.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 13:00

Lyman is a great company and that will be a pleasure to carry for sure, I been luggin around a 9 1/2 pounder and it's getting old.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 15:08

Hey! That'll put food on the table! I think it is a good choice and it looks good. 

AND, some that are super, super fine? The owners use synthetic powder. Synthetic! I ain't naming any names, but don't let Jon give you any grief about a supposed "sissy pad." He ain't got no couth. :ROFL

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 15:28

Recoil pads are allowed when you pass 70 years old.  Very Happy

You can tell they had hunting in mind when they made this gun. They blackened all the metal and the sling swivels. I love set triggers for target work, but not for hunting, so I'm glad to see the single trigger. Easy to shoulder and point and easy to carry. Lyman makes a really nice peep sight and i'm sure i'll put one on. It bolts right on the tang for this gun.

It's a well thought out hunting gun and that's all I wanted.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 17:45

Good choice. I've used a recoil pad for 20 years. It helps a lot with my bad shoulders.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 18:34

Thanks, Bob.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 19:54

That's been my wife's favorite rifle and caliber for a lot of years now. Lotta other guns in the rack, but that's the one she takes hunting year after year.  Probably one of the most accurate rifles we own, but I'm mostly guessing. She barely lets me shoot it!

Just a note on her rifle- I found it's favorite "hunting" load to be 80 grains of Goex 3f under a .530 home-cast with a ticking patch, TOW mink oil tallow for lube. 

But my wife wants no part of "so much" recoil and noise. She shoots ragged holes with 60 grains of 3f Goex and has made many a deer regret her choice. Never recovered a single ball from a deer in all the years, though she does hold all her shots to 50 yards.

You're likely to be real happy with the gem, especially in 54 cal. In fact, for both my wife and I the 54 balances and "hangs" better than the 50 we were able to shoot.  Only hickup, Lyman nipples don't seem to like CCI caps, which are just enough too small that they sit too high and occasionally misfire. Swap out for almost any other nipple and no sweat.  The Lyman nipple is fine with Remington caps, but those darned CCIs....
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-30, 22:08

Looks like a fine hunting rifle.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-31, 07:28

@BrownBear wrote:
That's been my wife's favorite rifle and caliber for a lot of years now. Lotta other guns in the rack, but that's the one she takes hunting year after year.  Probably one of the most accurate rifles we own, but I'm mostly guessing. She barely lets me shoot it!

Just a note on her rifle- I found it's favorite "hunting" load to be 80 grains of Goex 3f under a .530 home-cast with a ticking patch, TOW mink oil tallow for lube. 

But my wife wants no part of "so much" recoil and noise. She shoots ragged holes with 60 grains of 3f Goex and has made many a deer regret her choice. Never recovered a single ball from a deer in all the years, though she does hold all her shots to 50 yards.

You're likely to be real happy with the gem, especially in 54 cal. In fact, for both my wife and I the 54 balances and "hangs" better than the 50 we were able to shoot.  Only hickup, Lyman nipples don't seem to like CCI caps, which are just enough too small that they sit too high and occasionally misfire. Swap out for almost any other nipple and no sweat.  The Lyman nipple is fine with Remington caps, but those darned CCIs....

Funny you should recommend that load. I was thinking 80gr of Goex 3F was what I was going to try in the gun. I've been a fan of Mink Oil for a decade too. Maybe longer. It should be fine for elk. At my age that means a cow elk. I'm only after meat and i've never tasted a bad cow. I can't say the same for bulls. Some are good, some not so good. I would imagine the herd cow might be bad tasting too, but I always leave her alone.

 Deer is not really on my list. It's hard to get a muzzleloader deer tag in this area. These muley's taste like sage to me. Most of it ends up being meat for my dog. Same thing for bear meat. That's fine though, because it leaves me the elk meat. I love it and can eat it everyday of the year and not get tired of it. My dog is my whole family and he eats as much meat as me. I like hunting for meat for both of us. Bear and deer for him and elk for me.  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-31, 07:32

Thanks for all the comments guys. I'd prefer an accurate Hawken, but the time has come to be practical. The Deerstalker suits me better, and your encouragement helps me accept it better.

Thanks   :rtup

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-10-31, 22:19

All of my percussion cap rifles and most of my long-barreled flintlocks are heavy weights. Like Bear Claw says, they are fine for target shooting. But, had I been able to go hunting this year, I would have looked for a lighter weight rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 05:50

" But, had I been able to go hunting this year, I would have looked for a lighter weight rifle. 
Ron"


Gee Ron, you mean you can't go hunting yet? Get a new doctor that will let you have some fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 07:09

Had to go back to physical therapy to work on my walk. It turns out that it can take as much as 2 years to fully recover from a completely torn quadriceps. The second tear and surgery in February set the clock of recovery back significantly.
The positive side is that the injured left leg is getting stronger with regular exercise and I no longer am using a cane.
Basketball playing and break dancing does not seem to be in my immediate future. Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 08:07

Breakdancing would be fun to watch. Can you spin on your head?

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 08:30

Bear Claw wrote:
Breakdancing would be fun to watch. Can you spin on your head?
There would be low friction if I did spin on my head!

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 08:47

Use some of Jon's patch lube.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 14:16

Gun is supposed to be here Friday. I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas.

I don't wait very good.  pale

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remember about the rifling in those guns. Sharp!
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-01, 14:35

I'll shoot them smooth.

Unless you send me some shoot out. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-02, 07:08

Glad to see your back in the game Bear Claw.That rifle should be just the ticket.Is there still time for ya to Elk hunt this year?I hope so.
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No, not at all. All planning is for next year now.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-02, 08:22

Call up some coyotes for practice in the meantime. The pelts bring fairly good money in the winter. You can patch the holes.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-02, 09:24

I would Bob and I like doing that. The problem is the $700 I have to pay to fix my Jeep has taken all the money I have now. So, i'm getting the gun tomorrow but won't have money to buy shooting supplies.

It's ok. I'm patient.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-02, 11:21

Nothing like a convenient size rifle in the bush.  I've owned a few and still have a Mike Lange built .45 with a 25" barrel.  He calls them "Rugrat" rifles because they are meant for kids.  It's the perfect size for me.  That rifle is going to be a great "bush" rifle.  You did good.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-03, 10:38

Well, I just got the gun and couldn't be more pleased. It fits me perfect. LOP is perfect and the sights line up with my eyes closed. It mounts fast and points like a shotgun.

Maybe, I should have done this years ago instead of waiting so long to get sensible. It's got a much thicker recoil pad than what the picture shows. With that and a PRB it should be comfortable to shoot.

If I start to talk about shooting heavy conicals give me a slap up side the head. Hard! I'm stubborn.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-03, 11:28

Bear Claw, I'll be happy to slap sense into you if your breath even smells like conicals!  If you just dream about conicals, I want you to call me up and apologize.  

All seriousness aside, I hunted a LOT with shorties not many years back.  Even now my go-to deer rifle is a 36" flintlock which is short for most traditional rifles.  It's light weight makes it a fine woods rifle.  The little rifle pictured killed deer for me for over 20 years.  .50 X 24" barrel.
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Deer would never be a problem for me. Probably not even elk. It's the bear that gives me concern. Even though i've hunted for them since the late 50's. I still give them a lot of respect. I've been charged more than once. At my age and alone deep in the mountains. They hang out in the thickest brush and you can be on top of them before you know it. I don't carry any backup weapon, so my one shot needs to count.

It's the only time a big 400gr lead conical enters my mind. Most guys hunt in a tree for bear with bait. They have time for the perfect shot. I don't have that option. It's on the ground stalking. A big conical is comforting if I need to blast through a front shoulder.

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ahhh you aint hunting no damn bear! That 54 will do it all for you with round ball, especially how you hunt from the open top jeep parked on the side of the paved road Very Happy
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@FrontierGander wrote:
ahhh you aint hunting no damn bear! That 54 will do it all for you with round ball, especially how you hunt from the open top jeep parked on the side of the paved road Very Happy

Wasn't it you who whined about shooting an elk that was too far to haul back? At your age that should be against the law.

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I noticed an errant revolver showed up in my post.  I have no idea how it got there so please forgive.
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I was wondering what you were trying to tell me. Very Happy




To all those new on the forum. Me and Jon rag on each other all the time. Don't take any of it seriously.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Bought A Gun   Just Bought A Gun Empty2017-11-03, 14:53

I'll go ahead and use the PRB for bear. I might pour in a little extra powder though. Remember the old expression............Loaded for bear!

I believe that meant a double ball load too, but that was for grizz.

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