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forrest-hunter

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PostSubject: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 13:39

My 58 cal CVA hawken will only only fire when set trigger is used- also will not fire 777 with #11 primers - had to pull nipple and added a little pyrodex and fired fine - any suggestions
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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 13:42

My CVA Hawken .50 stopped popping #11s. I switched the main spring and I was right as rain. 
However, my set triggers were never an issue and I don't use 777.

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forrest-hunter

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 13:45

No trouble popping primers
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OldMtnMan

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 14:18

Clean the gun. Breech channel might be clogged.

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 18:35

Yes, fully take the rifle apart and flush the breech with hot soapy water. T7 is harder to ignite, so I would recommend a Knight Red Hot nipple.
https://www.frontiermuzzleloading.com/t11213-black-powder-substitute-what-s-a-good-choice
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forrest-hunter

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 19:19

Any ideas why it will fire only when set trigger is cocked
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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 19:29

Either the triggers are out of adjustment or the pull is extremely hard on an unset trigger. Ive had them in the 12lb range when unset.
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forrest-hunter

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-04, 20:09

Is there any way to adjust - set trigger is working great but need to lighten regular trigger to 7-8 lbs if possible
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ceader savage



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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-06, 09:10

Yes turn gun upside down there a little screw in back of triggers tighten   in up then try it might take a few times for this .take the lock out clean it up use transmission fluid on the hole lock put together Smile
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rowdyjoe

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PostSubject: Re: Help- older CVA Hawken   Help- older CVA Hawken Empty2017-11-13, 19:23

@forrest-hunter wrote:
Is there any way to adjust - set trigger is working great but need to lighten regular trigger to 7-8 lbs if possible


Yes, carefully adjust (screw in) the rear screw under the trigger base plate a little at a time.  Screwing it in will loosen the pressure on the main trigger spring.  Be careful as the main trigger spring is brittle and may break at the bolt hole if you put too much pressure on it.  Adjusting (loosening) the main spring bolt may help lighten the rear trigger and prevent the spring from breaking.  I would recommend blue thread lock on that bolt when you decide where you want it.  Mine loosened up on me at the range before I learned to thread-lock the bolt. 

For any replacement CVA parts, I can recommend Deer Creek Products.  They have the parts at good prices.  I ended up replacing the lock and trigger assemblies to solve the issues with my rifle.

RJ
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