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Hylander

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PostSubject: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-18, 19:06

Received my new GPR yesterday  Very Happy
Awesome fast shipping from Hinterland Outfitters, also best price I could find.
Package arrive in great condition.
The Good:
The bore, this is nicest smoothest bore I have ever seen in any rifle at any price, not a single machining mark.
Bluing is deep, dark and even.
Most wood to metal fit is very good, no gaps and fit is snug.
The Bad:
Wood finish is dark in color but thin and a lot is coming off just from handling.
The ram rod is cheap wood with nearly no finish.
Wood around tang is pretty proud.
Barrel to forearm fit is a bit off, with barrel fitting snug on the left side.
Barrel wedge pins could be just a bit longer.

What I plan to do to it:
Already cleaned the bore with brake cleaner and lubed with Lucas CLP.
Strip what little finish it has and refinish with a dark stain ?, give me ideas please.
Then a few coats of Formsby Tung oil, Follow with a coat of T/C Bore Butter.

Overall: I am very well pleased. Very well done for a $500 factory rifle.
Of course the proof will be how it shoots.

Will start off with .490 RB
.020 Stripped Ticking lubed with Mink oil.
60gr. 777FFF and 777FF

Range Report to follow next week  Wink

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-18, 20:11

The GPR is a great rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-18, 20:20

"Barrel to forearm fit is a bit off, with barrel fitting snug on the left side."

Rout out that spot that is impinging on the barrel before re-finishing the wood. It has the remote possibility of throwing your accuracy off.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-18, 20:55

@patocazador wrote:
"Barrel to forearm fit is a bit off, with barrel fitting snug on the left side."

Rout out that spot that is impinging on the barrel before re-finishing the wood. It has the remote possibility of throwing your accuracy off.
Might not be able to, as it looks like the whole barrel is angled left.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-19, 04:17

About 10 years back my principal hunting pard got one in a kit like that. He called Lyman and was polite, and they said send it back.  Had a replacement in 3 days- a new world record for shipping to Alaska. It arrived so fast they couldn't have received his original yet.

Best news of all, the replacement stock is a trophy. Looks like English walnut.

I'd call them and see what happens. If my bud's experience shows anything, you'll be happy you did.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-19, 06:26

Congrats on the hew rifle. Just make it the way you want it.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-20, 10:54

Well I just got a GPR - 54 percussion myself last week. I would say your assessment of the quality of the gun is about the same as mine. I am going to work on my stock next summer because the finish as stated is pitiful.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-20, 17:20

When I got my GPR the stock was as described. I took all the metal off of it and used 600 grit wetdry sandpaper lubricated with boiled linseed oil. I sanded the stock lightly and allowed the sanding dust to mix with the BLO, which filled the grain nicely, and smoothed the stock considerably. I then installed the metal parts back on the stock and made a slurry out of sanding dust from a mahogany dowel mixed with BLO. I then hand rubbed the slurry into the small gaps between the metal and wood, and let it cure for a few days. After that, I applied 10 coats coats of hand rubbed BLO. The stock looks fabulous now and feels great. 

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-11-20, 17:24

I called Lyman today, the tech was not in.
The CS gal told me to sand inside the barrel channel and around the tang for a better fit.
I asked if this would void the warranty and she no.
So I will attack it tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2017-12-08, 21:55

Called Lyman again and they sent me an RA to send it back.
Not happy with the wood to metal fit.
all wood is very proud of the metal.
They said they would either fix it or replace the rifle, we shall see.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-13, 21:17

Well I got it back.
Lyman did Nothing

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-14, 07:25

Hylander, from the picture your rifle looks good.  The lighter shade on the forend vs the darker butt stock give it a lot of character.  You have lots of options on finishing.  The ram rod can easily be replaced.  Check out Track of the Wolf for example.  

Good luck with her and be sure to let us know how she shoots.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-14, 08:29

@Hylander wrote:
Well I got it back.
Lyman did Nothing

I never had a Lyman gun but their customer service for other products was awful. I'm not surprised that you're not pleased.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-15, 08:24

You do know that the gun has two different length wedges? Put them in the wrong slot and they'll seem too short. It also shows you in the manual how to adjust the tension on the wedges. It's very simple and takes me 30sec. One smack with a hammer and it's done.

The curved butt plate is actually pretty comfortable, but it takes a different method of shouldering the gun. More across your chest and not straight into the shoulder like a modern gun. It should mount between the deltoid and bicep. Not into just the deltoid. The bottom curve of the butt plate helps hold up the barrel by hooking under the deltoid.

209 primers? Sabots? Good grief you should have bought an inline.

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PostSubject: 180 yds   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-15, 11:05

if that gun shot one inch groups at 180 yds with open sights you've got a world beater as far as a shooter, that's almost impossible to do with a scoped inline..gun is worth 3 times what you paid for it if it will do that.strong eagle wrote:
this is the reality about this gun. it is a really good gun but not finished when you get it even it if is supposed to be. wedges are too short. i put a couple layers of paper under the breech so their is a little tension on the new longer wedges. the rear sight has to be replaced. i put a skinner ghost ring on it. some of the wood screws have to be replaced. i dont use tapered wood screws. i use sheet metal slotted head screws. this isnt necessary but i put a magspark 209 shot gun primer nipple on it. i also put a curved spacer in the shoulder killer too curved butt plate and then put a high end lace up leather slip on leather cover over it. no more pain when the gun goes off. i even went one step more, i cryo treated the barrel. im fussy so i recrowned the muzzle to a perfect one. it shoot holes in hole with a mmp sabot and a 250 grin .451 or .452 45 cal pistol bullet. also other over the counter bullets. also 535 grain paper patched bullets. its a shooter now and solid and reliable but not out of the box.would i buy one again, yes, but i have the know how to tweek it, some dont or dont want to. they have to be worked on if your fussy at all. im fussy. i gave this gun to my son who lives in denver. before i gave it to him i did several shots at 180 yards and it kept a one inch group from a rest. it is not expensive and can be made into a really good gun if you dont mind going over it your self.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-15, 21:28

So I talked to Lyman CS today.
Was told they sent it back with a new stock  Rolling Eyes
I informed them they sent it back untouched.
They then asked for pictures, to which I email them immediately.
Then got a call a couple hours later saying they would send another RA to return the gun again.
I asked if they could just send me a new stock and I wold install it myself to save time for me and shipping for them. I was told it was not an easy job, but I assured them I have done this before.
They agreed to send me a new stock  Very Happy
They asked flint or Percussion, I told them Percussion. hope I get the right one  What a Face
I think they just got mixed up with my gun and thought it was taken care but no one actually took care of it. Everyone makes mistakes and if I get a new stock that is good I will be happy.
Also they said no need to return the old stock.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 08:16

@strong eagle wrote:
mine was a fast twist, thats why the sabots and bullets in the sabots. when your shooting 100 grains of real black behind a 250 grain bullet in a sabot the butt plate hurts. my wedges were the same length. as to bending the pieces so the wedges are tighter. that not how to solve the problem of a gun barrel that just sits in the channel. on these types of guns you want the barrel to rise up just a little in the front of the forestock. when you put slight pressure on the front of the barrel to put it into the barrel channel the wedges will stay in place. you sound like you got issues with fast twist barrel on side locks. i will never ever shoot a round ball in a 50 cal 1/32 twist barrel. oh the horror of a cast bullet, or sabot and bullet or paper patched bullet. i dont ride a horse or mule to town, i have electric heat,  sounds like a dyed in the wool traditional thing to me. i can set up most guns to shoot way beyond the accuracy that it was ment to, again, what is your issues?

You should have said you had a GPH. This is a GPR thread. How do we know what you're talking about?
I don't agree with shimming the barrel to stand off the stock and squeezing it to install the wedges. That puts a strain on the wood and can crack it in time. I've seen that happen to a friends GPR setup that way.

 Do I have issues with modernizing a sidelock? Yes, I do. Shoot an inline and I can carry it further by saying to use it in rifle season too, but that pisses everybody off except the true traditional muzzleloaders. 

btw A 100gr of BP with a 250gr bullet in a 9lb gun is not a hard kicker.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 09:15

Bear Claw wrote:
@strong eagle wrote:
mine was a fast twist, thats why the sabots and bullets in the sabots. when your shooting 100 grains of real black behind a 250 grain bullet in a sabot the butt plate hurts. my wedges were the same length. as to bending the pieces so the wedges are tighter. that not how to solve the problem of a gun barrel that just sits in the channel. on these types of guns you want the barrel to rise up just a little in the front of the forestock. when you put slight pressure on the front of the barrel to put it into the barrel channel the wedges will stay in place. you sound like you got issues with fast twist barrel on side locks. i will never ever shoot a round ball in a 50 cal 1/32 twist barrel. oh the horror of a cast bullet, or sabot and bullet or paper patched bullet. i dont ride a horse or mule to town, i have electric heat,  sounds like a dyed in the wool traditional thing to me. i can set up most guns to shoot way beyond the accuracy that it was ment to, again, what is your issues?

You should have said you had a GPH. This is a GPR thread. How do we know what you're talking about?
I don't agree with shimming the barrel to stand off the stock and squeezing it to install the wedges. That puts a strain on the wood and can crack it in time. I've seen that happen to a friends GPR setup that way.

 Do I have issues with modernizing a sidelock? Yes, I do. Shoot an inline and I can carry it further by saying to use it in rifle season too, but that pisses everybody off except the true traditional muzzleloaders. 

btw A 100gr of BP with a 250gr bullet in a 9lb gun is not a hard kicker.
As one who was shooting traditional muzzleloaders a decade or more before there was such a thing as a special season, I can assure you that you don't piss me off.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 10:22

I have a sidelock with a fast twist (1:28) I shoot maxi-balls or PT Golds with a sabot. It's accurate out to 100 yards which is as far as I can shoot in most places here. I also use a Hubbard Mag-Spark with 209 primers because I shoot  BH 209 in it.

I don't really care what anyone thinks about the above. I usually get a deer or two each year and that's what I'm after. I'm not a "mountain man" or a pioneer. I hunt public land that is overrun with hunters and my set-up works for me.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 12:33

@patocazador wrote:
I have a sidelock with a fast twist (1:28) I shoot maxi-balls or PT Golds with a sabot. It's accurate out to 100 yards which is as far as I can shoot in most places here. I also use a Hubbard Mag-Spark with 209 primers because I shoot  BH 209 in it.

I don't really care what anyone thinks about the above. I usually get a deer or two each year and that's what I'm after. I'm not a "mountain man" or a pioneer. I hunt public land that is overrun with hunters and my set-up works for me.
Sure you care Bob. That why you wrote this post.  tongue


The truth be told. I don't care what anybody does either. It just doesn't make sense to me to use a traditional rifle if you aren't going to use everything traditional. What's the point of using 1830 technology in the gun and then try to modernize it? An inline is lighter, easier to clean, more reliable, and usually more accurate.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 12:47

I am one that for the most part if you are going to shoot traditional muzzle loaders stay traditional.
I don't like in-lines at all, had them don't like them.
but not really use one, actually pretty true as I sell them all day long for just that purpose. 
However what do I know, I use 777 for my powder  Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 13:09

@Hylander wrote:
I am one that for the most part if you are going to shoot traditional muzzle loaders stay traditional.
I don't like in-lines at all, had them don't like them.
but not really use one, actually pretty true as I sell them all day long for just that purpose. 
However what do I know, I use 777 for my powder  Embarassed

How are you going to stay traditional when the lead ban goes into effect? Living in California must suck if one is a shooter of firearms.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 13:48

@patocazador wrote:
@Hylander wrote:
I am one that for the most part if you are going to shoot traditional muzzle loaders stay traditional.
I don't like in-lines at all, had them don't like them.
but not really use one, actually pretty true as I sell them all day long for just that purpose. 
However what do I know, I use 777 for my powder  Embarassed

How are you going to stay traditional when the lead ban goes into effect? Living in California must suck if one is a shooter of firearms.

For target shooting we are ok. 
For hunting I think there are are a couple of companies working on alternatives to lead 
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 13:50

Let's try to remember that this area is for round ball topics guys. No in lines either.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 16:51

I was fortunate in picking up a used GPR in .54 cal. The owner before me had not only cared for this rifle, but draw filed off all the writing on the barrel and it looks like he refinished the wood. As far as I am concerned, I have a better than new GPR that shoots very well.
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@RonC wrote:
I was fortunate in picking up a used GPR in .54 cal. The owner before me had not only cared for this rifle, but draw filed off all the writing on the barrel and it looks like he refinished the wood. As far as I am concerned, I have a better than new GPR that shoots very well.
Ron
Sounds like one of my old GPR's. Who did you get it from?

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 18:57

Pete,
I have to look through my old emails to find the name of the seller. This is the description of the GPR from the seller:


"Lyman GPR  caplock 54 cal rifle
Up for sale is a Lyman GPR , caplock, .54 cal rifle. In excellent used condition, well maintained. It was a kit rifle and the barrel has been "sanitized" per the draw filing method described on this forum with excellent results. The barrel has no rust or pitting. All furniture and barrel is rust browned. It has a beautiful walnut stock. Very accurate with a patched round ball.
 
It has a Hot Shot nipple. Both the front and rear sights were replaced to make the rifle more inline with the originals I had seen pics of. I'd start with 65 grns. of 3F with the balls and patch material I included. I always use Hoppes #9 Plus for a patch lube after being schooled by some good folks on the forum, you can shoot at least 15- 20 shots before it needs a wipe. Good stuff. The trigger is a jewel also, nice feel, I'm sure you will enjoy it as much as I did."


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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 19:12

What caught my eye was the barrel defarbed, but now that I think back that gun was a flintlock.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-16, 23:54

Super excited they are sending me a new stock.
However, I was really excited the first time to get rifle back with a new stock but 
that did not turn out well. I keep thinking, is this going to be a finished stock or one from a kit gun.
Fingers crossed  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-17, 07:54

You might be better off with a kit stock so you can work it to be a better fit than the factory does. I'm guessing it will be finished.

I have a new Deerstalker that has the worse fit i've ever seen on a Lyman before. Easily fixed with some sanding, but we shouldn't have to do that when we buy a gun.

I'll use the Deerstalker, but i'm saving up for a custom built Isaac Haines flintlock longrifle. The smaller swamped barrel should feel lighter than the Hawken style guns. Even if it is 38" long it should have a lighter feel. Overall weight of gun is just 7 1/2lbs. I also always wanted a flintlock with a good lock and barre. It will have a Siler/chambers lock and Rice barrel. I hope i'll like it.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-23, 15:56

Well, I received my stock.
It is finished with butt plate and nose cap.
But guess what, it also has a crack under the lock  Rolling Eyes
I have not seen yet if anything fits right., not sure if where the crack is will effect anything or not.
I am done with Lyman, bring on the Traditions !

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-23, 16:02

oh wow! That's hair pulling time.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-23, 20:58

Well I the crack is where recoil will be an issue  Rolling Eyes
I am not going to try to repair it because of where it is.
Also it will take some work to get everything to fit proper.
I am going to work over my original stock maybe later in the spring.
But for now I am just going to shoot it and have fun.
I will be contacting Lyman to express my disappointment and let them know I am done.
This is such a bummer, the first one I bought many years ago was Awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-25, 20:44

OK,
Emailed John at Lyman.
He is going to send me another stock.
Seems they are trying to make this right.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-25, 21:39

Can you take pictures of both stocks?
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-25, 23:35

First stock:

My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. 39193762874_a4bf7ecb6a_z

Second stock:

My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. 28124024279_2e2b340ee6_z
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-26, 11:26

WOW, yeah not good at all! The walnut is bad at cracking and chipping, but that is a bad area to have it in considering that the tang screws run through that area or close by.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-31, 22:18

Received my second replacement stock.
It is the worst of all three  Shocked
Apparently no one is inspecting the stocks before they are sent to me.
I just emailed them with pics and will call them tomorrow.
So frustrated  headslap

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-31, 23:08

What a freakin joke! Im making sure to share this on facebook, other forums as well as keeping Lyman informed of the lack of quality/quality control. That thing is junk and looks like it dry rotting with all that crumbly wood.

By the way, I HIGHLY suggest you tell lyman that you want an entire NEW rifle. This is not good!
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-01-31, 23:26

I thought these would be better quality being made by Investarms.
My first Lyman GPR several years ago was a Beauty. what the heck happened ?
I won't buy another.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 07:22

With a "Brand New" rifle you don't want to be repairing cracks.  You're paying for a brand new stock "with out" cracks.  Lyman should be able to make this right.  An old barn gun is a different story.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 10:09

shoot, that old shotgun from the 1880s is in better shape than that stock.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 10:25

I wonder if they changed the wood supplier? They never had that problem in the old days and the old guns had a crazy looking grain. It's pretty plain now.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 13:33

I bought a new Lyman GPR last fall around the first of November from Mid South . I haven't looked for cracks in the stock but the wood in my stock has a very open grain and if it is some kind of Walnut it is a poor piece. Other than  wood aesthetics it seems to be OK. I am going to check it out thoroughly this weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 14:35

Bear Claw wrote:
I wonder if they changed the wood supplier? They never had that problem in the old days and the old guns had a crazy looking grain. It's pretty plain now.
Yeah, the new stocks hardly have any grain in them at all. Look like old pressboard.

It looks to me like they are working those stocks with too high moisture content and those cracks happen when they finish drying.

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PostSubject: Re: My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal.   My New Lyman GPR 50 Cal. Empty2018-02-01, 17:33

The blanks those stocks were made from were not properly seasoned.  They were probably kiln dried.  They get the blanks on the cheap and then hope no one complains. 

45-50 years ago i cut an sold thousands of walnut stock blanks.
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