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PostSubject: Need some help   December 4th 2017, 9:13 am

I am new to muzzle loading, so bear with me. I recently picked up a CVA Frontier. After doing some research I picked up Pyrodex pellets, Sabot rounds and #11 percussion caps. Cleaned the rifle including the nipple passage, loaded the thing and no boom, cap goes but not the load. Any help would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 4th 2017, 10:50 am

Sidelock muzzleloaders do not handle pellets well.   Not surprised you got a misfire.  

Pyrodex pellets have an black powder igniter on one end.    

1.  Remove the nipple and clean the flame channel with a wire or bristled pipe cleaner.   Replace nipple. 

2.  Load the pellet black end down.   Attempt to fire. 

3.  Buy some granular powder.   Genuine black powder, Pyrodex and Black MZ work well in conventional muzzleloaders.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 4th 2017, 12:50 pm

There's your answer by "falcon", he has done everything you told us and figured out the issues. Good post guys.  :rtup

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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 5th 2017, 4:44 pm

You can continue to slowly use-up pellets in your sidelock. But you must first load 10gr or more of loose powder. Prior to inserting the pellet(s), be sure to wiggle the barrel side-to-side, so the loose powder seats correctly first.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 5th 2017, 4:56 pm

Yes you will need to do just exactly and Goex said! A 5 to 10 grain booster charge of loose powder ( pyrodex, goex, american pioneer, Triple 7 ) then drop a pellet down and load your projectile.

I personally would set the pellets to the side and buy some loose powder. The Frontier has a 1:48 twist, so sabots will basically be a toss up. I personally doubt they will shoot with any real accuracy unless they are 185 grains of less.

For projectiles, You can shoot anything from the patched round ball, to the lead hornady great plains or Maxi balls, to the Powerbelt bullets.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 9th 2017, 9:51 am

You might want to also try adding a spitfire nipple I bought mine from Deer Creek products.  I have fed my CVA Frontier and Missouri rifles both Olde Enysford and Black MZ with the nipple installed goes boom everytime. Those I much prefer the Olde Enysford over the Black MZ

Make sure your fire channel is clear,

As far as projectiles my Frontier likes 250 gr Hornady SST in their black sabot but my Missouri loves Track of the Wolf minie balls.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 11th 2017, 8:05 am

I ended up buying a Mag Spark nipple, it uses a 209 primer, fires every time on the pellets, thanks guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some help   December 11th 2017, 9:35 am

I use the Mag-Spark with BH 209 in a sidelock. It works well .. no misfires.

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