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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 9th 2018, 6:21 pm

Does anybody have any experience with this product? 

Bear Guard Original - Boot and Leather Waterproofing - Beeswax and Bear Grease

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 9th 2018, 6:33 pm

No, he's late to the party. This has been out quite awhile now. I've used it and it's good stuff.

http://www.octobercountry.com/bumblin-bear-grease-4-oz/

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 9th 2018, 6:45 pm

KC, what's the price of the "BearGuard"? It should make a good lube for conicals.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 9th 2018, 9:06 pm

@patocazador wrote:
KC, what's the price of the "BearGuard"? It should make a good lube for conicals.

Amazon has several options. 14.99 w/ shipping seems to be the low price. That would be interesting. I can think a a few places that might be fun to try.

Muley? You've used it? On what and how did it do?

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 8:19 am

I used it for patch lube. That's what he makes it for. I have better stuff for boots. I could make my own bear tallow, but I give it all to my Lakota friend. He uses it on his skin. He smells like it too. However, he's 70 and doesn't have one wrinkle.

I use the TOW Mink Oil for patch lube now. I think it's better than bear tallow. As does everybody at AmericanLongRifle forum. It's cheaper than bear tallow too.

Jon's lube might be in the running, but I think animal tallow makes the best patch lube. Especially, in cold weather. Plus, tallow is a natural product and traditional. No clue what's in Jon's lube, but i'm sure it isn't natural.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 9:32 am

I use mink oil too for patches but I'm using unsalted lard and beeswax for a conical lube. Perhaps bear fat with beeswax is better but it certainly is much more expensive.

The pioneers used bear fat as a substitute for lard. However, I don't know which one is better for cooking or a lube.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 9:51 am

Yes, lot's of people use bear tallow for cooking. I read it makes great pastries. I never had it, but i'm not fond of bear meat, so I have to wonder what anything made from bear would appeal to me.

I'm not sure what would be better for conicals. I know a lot of guys add some beeswax to the TOW Mink Oil and like it. I would think bear tallow would work too. I know for patches the mink oil stays more slippery than the bear tallow. I can do less swabbing with mink oil over the bear tallow.

This may sound misleading to those unfamiliar with the products. TOW calls it Mink Oil, because that's what it is when melted down and rendered. It then hardens up to a paste. So, bear tallow and mink oil which really should be called mink tallow are both a paste.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 10:00 am

What we need is a shootout for patch lubes. Just the paste lubes, because the liquid lubes are more for target shooting. They dry up too much for hunting.

Test for........ 

Accuracy

How much swabbing is needed between shots

Cold weather performance

Hot weather performance

Smell

Ease of application

Price

Rust prevention



Anything else?

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 10:09 am

stop speculating pete, my lube is 100% natural. Man i hate when you do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 11:54 am

How would we know that? I thought you said it had no animal fats? Does it? That's what i'm talking about.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 12:03 pm

I told you many times and include on the add that its natural, no petros. No animal fats, wax or anything common in lubes of yesterday or today.  No it does not contain animal fats. I don't want that crap in my lube as it can go rancid and there are better things to use.
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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 12:08 pm

Well, Jon. When I say natural and traditional I mean animal tallow. I thought that was understood what I meant. You should have since the topic of this thread is animal tallow.

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 12:10 pm

Completely understood now Pete! 

I read it in a way that made me feel like you said my lube was not natural ingredients. Everything is A ok and cleared up.
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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 12:17 pm

I couldn't say that the way you protect what the ingredients are.  tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Bear Guard   Bear Guard EmptyJanuary 10th 2018, 12:22 pm

Yep, thats a top secret. No one has ever come close to replicating it, especially the oil thats blended in.
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