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PostSubject: Rotary Capper   January 25th 2018, 6:11 pm

Stoney1 Made this for me back in September! A neat little capping gadget that rotates to reveal the next percussion cap.

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Here's something that I made back in the 70's.

It's a "Rotary Capper"
I can't take credit for its authenticity, but I can take credit for re-introducing it to the Black Powder community. I actually found one of these in a "Mountain Man museum" here in Pennsylvania back in the 70's. Whether or not it was from the imagination of the owner I can’t say?

This was supposedly something that Mountain Men in the 17 and 1800's made and used? I didn't have an opportunity to "handle" it so I had to depend on my memory to recreate it when I got back home.

This is as close as I could get! I hope you find it interesting?

I'd be curious about your thoughts and any information you might have on this Supposed invention. I know it works, I used this one for years. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 25th 2018, 7:19 pm

That's neat.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 25th 2018, 7:34 pm

He built that? Cool. How about a 'How to?' Or, a picture of all the parts? What did he make it out of?

And, the 'cool factor' of having an engraved personal gift from a man named Two Feathers? Priceless.

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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 26th 2018, 11:51 am

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That's neat.
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 Thank you. When I saw it in the 70's I knew I had to make one.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 26th 2018, 11:59 am

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He built that? Cool. How about a 'How to?' Or, a picture of all the parts? What did he make it out of?

And, the 'cool factor' of having an engraved personal gift from a man named Two Feathers? Priceless.
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Yup...I built it. It's not the easiest thing to make, but it's well within the abilities of any of you crafty folks here on the forum. I forgot all about it for a year, then I made one from memory, (not this one), this one I made for Frontier Gander. The first one I made and used for years is a lot rattier than this nice new one, but it still worked and I still have it. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 26th 2018, 12:20 pm

@Kentucky Colonel wrote:
He built that? Cool. How about a 'How to?' Or, a picture of all the parts? What did he make it out of?

And, the 'cool factor' of having an engraved personal gift from a man named Two Feathers? Priceless.
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Sorry...I missed the other part. A "how to" Hopefully. "Pictures of the parts", Definitely, just as soon as I get back into my shop to do another one. What it's made of? My original is Copper and Leather. This one is Brass and Leather. I'll try to explain it to you. My stroke makes it a little hard to organize my thoughts, but I'll give it a shot. I quit teaching because of my " scrambled brain."
The hardest part is cutting the 2 circles out of Copper or Brass, after that; the rest is tedious, but not impossible.  I use a floor model scroll saw, a drill press, and a belt grinder. I break a lot of blades! I'll try and get some pictures of the parts with measurements and of the whole thing "In progress" will that be acceptable?  Thanks for the interest guys. I really appreciate the support I get here on the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 8:26 am

That is beautiful, I love it and knowing that you made it makes it even better.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 12:24 pm

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That is beautiful, I love it and knowing that you made it makes it even better.
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 Thank you very much. I appreciate your support.
I plan on doing a little "pictorial tutorial" Wink as soon as I can. I hope people like that idea. I know I'm a firm believer that " a picture is worth a thousand words."
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:24 pm

It sure looks nifty. Maybe you can set up so you can cut out a bunch of the disks at one time and  proceed to each step with multiple repetitive procedures producing several at a time. Then you could sell them. -- Maybe have some friends or relatives do the tricky steps. 

I see a market for these.

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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:35 pm

I would definitely buy one
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:47 pm

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I would definitely buy one
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 Thank you for the vote of confidence, but they cost too much to make. Waaaaay to labor intensive. I have all the supplies here. The materials are not bad. Being a leather worker, I have tons of scrap 8-9 oz. leather, and I use .035" Brass sheet stock, which you can get at an Ace Tru Value Hardware store for about $12.00 a sheet. The other things are a Copper Rivet, solder and iron . You could use a small torch, but the flame is too hard to control and you end up ruining the leather. The labor cost is HORRIBLE! It takes me about 3 hours to make one. I'd have to charge $25.00 a piece!? Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:53 pm

$25/each? If they function properly, I think they'd be well worth that much.

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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:55 pm

similar cappers on TOTW are a little more than that
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 1:56 pm

This could be the start of a small business for you
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 27th 2018, 2:16 pm

@rebs wrote:
This could be the start of a small business for you
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 Thanks, but I have a small business. I'm the maker of the patch knives and other accessories listed in the Mountain Man Emporium on this website. If I couldn't make any money on the cappers, it wouldn't be of much use to me to try selling them? I doubt that anyone would pay $25.00 for one? You can get a straight line caper online for $5-10 bucks. Thanks again for your support, advice, and compliments.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 28th 2018, 7:46 am

@patocazador wrote:
$25/each? If they function properly, I think they'd be well worth that much.
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Sorry, I didn't see this reply. Maybe there IS a market for these?
Thanks for the confidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   January 28th 2018, 8:00 am

@rebs wrote:
similar cappers on TOTW are a little more than that
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 I'm terribly sorry, but like I told patocazador, I didn't see your reply. For some reason I only get email updates about certain replies to my posts???
 I wasn't aware that ANYONE else in the world sold something even similar to these? I (really) thought that this design came from the mind of a grizzled, eccentric old guy who fancied himself a Mountain Man and Historian here in N.E. Pa. back in the 70's. Guess I was wrong? Thanks for the information.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 2nd 2018, 12:19 pm

@rebs wrote:
That is beautiful, I love it and knowing that you made it makes it even better.
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 I promised you that I'd do a little tutorial with photos on this rotary capper. I'm a man of my word, so I'm starting one this morning. I'll take as many photos as I can (with the best explanations that I can give) and I'm hoping that with Frontier Gander's help we can get them posted? Once you see how it's made you may want to try it yourself, however if you don't, I'll be happy to sell you one.
Right now I have a guitar repair, 6 knives and a Flintlock build for my doctor, headslap on the go, but I'll try to move this tutorial along as fast as I can. At any point if I'm not clear, please feel free to email me. I think any of the guys (or girls) on this forum should be able to make one of these. This can all be done with simple hand tools, I just happen to be fortunate enough to have the power tools to do it, so this saves me a little time. I'm 68 and retired. Time is something I have a LOT of.headslap2.  Keep an eye out for the post. I'll get it ASAP. Thank you for your interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 2nd 2018, 12:23 pm

@Kentucky Colonel wrote:
He built that? Cool. How about a 'How to?' Or, a picture of all the parts? What did he make it out of?

And, the 'cool factor' of having an engraved personal gift from a man named Two Feathers? Priceless.
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I promised you that I'd do a little tutorial with photos on this rotary capper. I'm a man of my word, so I'm starting one this morning. I'll take as many photos as I can (with the best explanations that I can give) and I'm hoping that with Frontier Gander's help we can get them posted? Once you see how it's made you may want to try it yourself, however if you don't, I'll be happy to sell you one.
Right now I have a guitar repair, 6 knives and a Flintlock build for my doctor, headslap on the go, but I'll try to move this tutorial along as fast as I can. At any point if I'm not clear, please feel free to email me. I think any of the guys (or girls) on this forum should be able to make one of these. This can all be done with simple hand tools, I just happen to be fortunate enough to have the power tools to do it, so this saves me a little time. I'm 68 and retired. Time is something I have a LOT of.headslap2.  Keep an eye out for the post. I'll get it ASAP. Thank you for your interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 3rd 2018, 5:59 am

Sweet! I am looking forward to seeing this. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 3rd 2018, 9:47 am

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Sweet! I am looking forward to seeing this. cheers
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 Hold on there partner... This may take a little while? I laid out the circles on brass shet stock yesterday morning, but that's as far as I got.  I have every intention of doing this, but it takes a back seat for the time being. I'm thrilled that you have an interest in it. I'm not certain how "time feasible" these rotary cappers are? I just made a couple 'cause I thought it was a neat idea. When you factor in the time required, they're not too cost effective? NOW...if you want to look REALLY cool at the next rendezvous then by all means knock yourself out! I'll show you how it's done, then it's up to you to decide if you want to take the time to make one? Not many people have ever had much interest in the things I make, so this is new territory for me. That's why I loved being a vocational technology teacher, my students wanted to know how to make the things I showed them. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 27th 2018, 2:35 pm

@FrontierGander wrote:
Stoney1 - His words,

Here's something that I made back in the 70's.

STONEY, A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF RUSS HAMN MADE THESE FROM THE LATE 60'S TO EARLY 70'S THEN GAVE THE DESIGN TO TED CASH [TC] (NOT THE RIFLE COMPANY). ADVERTISED IN MUZZLE BLASTS AND BUCKSKIN REPORT.

It's a "Rotary Capper" I can't take credit for its authenticity, but I can take credit for re-introducing it to the Black Powder community. I actually found one of these in a "Mountain Man museum" here in Pennsylvania back in the 70's.  

STONEY, YOU DIDN'T "RE-INTRODUCE". RUSS HAMN TOLD US BACK IN THE LATE 60'S HE HAD AN ORIGINAL HE HAD COPIED FOR HIS DESIGN THAT HE WAS SELLING.

This was supposedly something that Mountain Men in the 17 and 1800's made and used? I didn't have an opportunity to "handle" it so I had to depend on my memory to recreate it when I got back home.

THEY DATE MID 1800'S TO THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR PRODUCED IN THE NEW ENGLAND STATES IN LARGE NUMBERS - UNION TROOPS.

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PostSubject: Re: Rotary Capper   March 27th 2018, 4:35 pm

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@FrontierGander wrote:
Stoney1 - His words,

Here's something that I made back in the 70's.

STONEY, A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF RUSS HAMN MADE THESE FROM THE LATE 60'S TO EARLY 70'S THEN GAVE THE DESIGN TO TED CASH [TC] (NOT THE RIFLE COMPANY). ADVERTISED IN MUZZLE BLASTS AND BUCKSKIN REPORT.

It's a "Rotary Capper" I can't take credit for its authenticity, but I can take credit for re-introducing it to the Black Powder community. I actually found one of these in a "Mountain Man museum" here in Pennsylvania back in the 70's.  

STONEY, YOU DIDN'T "RE-INTRODUCE". RUSS HAMN TOLD US BACK IN THE LATE 60'S HE HAD AN ORIGINAL HE HAD COPIED FOR HIS DESIGN THAT HE WAS SELLING.

This was supposedly something that Mountain Men in the 17 and 1800's made and used? I didn't have an opportunity to "handle" it so I had to depend on my memory to recreate it when I got back home.

THEY DATE MID 1800'S TO THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR PRODUCED IN THE NEW ENGLAND STATES IN LARGE NUMBERS - UNION TROOPS.

God bless:
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at The mountain Man Emporium

Buck
I  didn't take credit for  inventing it. I said I re-introduced it to today's BP community. WHICH I DID!! Don't confuse re-introduction with re-inventing? Until now, NO ONE I know of (including the members) ever heard of, or had seen one. Apparently it's not THAT well known or I wouldn't have been asked to do a tutorial on how I made it! I was asked by some of the members to show them how I made mine, so they can make one. I always say "NO good deed goes unpunished," Thank you for confirming that. I guess that'll be the end of the tutorial? Apparently anyone who wants to make one can just ask Russ Hamm, I'm sure he'll be happy to pass along written instructions....for a fee. Thank you for pointing out to me that helping isn't necessarily a good thing.
 I'd like to know if any of the members REALLY do want to know how they're made, before I waste more time? Thanks again for the info. If anyone IS interested please let me know here.
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