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Mike in Oz

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PostSubject: My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber    My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber  Empty2018-02-07, 07:05

G'day mates,

Well the saga is over, after three months of being buggered around by the clowns at firearms licensing I finally took possession of my flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber.

I was so excited I went straight to the range, gave the girl a good scrub and went for a shoot.

I was pretty confident in my abilities after shooting for most of my life and using a caplock for the last two years but the flintlock has so much going on!

I got lots of failures to fires and flashes in the pan and had to fiddle with the flint repeatedly to get it to work and i discovered the importance of a clean frizzen. 

Anyway I only had time for five shots using 50 grains of 2F pushing a .490 ball wrapped in a .010 greased patch out to 25 meters.

But i'm pretty happy so far.


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A .440 ball and .010 patch is a very loose fit in a 50 caliber gun.  I suggest a .490 with .o15 patch to start off with.  Also, you might try some 3f if you have it.  I have had better results with 3f in 50 cal guns using loads of less than 65 grains.
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Sorry about the delay in posting pics, my power went out! :/
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@Grimord wrote:
A .440 ball and .010 patch is a very loose fit in a 50 caliber gun.  I suggest a .490 with .o15 patch to start off with.  Also, you might try some 3f if you have it.  I have had better results with 3f in 50 cal guns using loads of less than 65 grains.

You'd think so wouldn't you? 

But that bugger was as tight as a misers charity......

****EDIT I just realised I wrote .440 not .490, Sorry but I've been using a .45 rifle for years and had a blonde moment!***
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Flintlocks are finicky. I had to "play" with my .45 for quite awhile to come up with a regimen that assured that it would fire each time.

I have to swab with a damp patch after each shot. I also have to leave the touch hole pick in place when adding powder and a patched ball. If I don't, the powder packs too tightly and misfires occur.

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Thats good shooting for a new rifle and learning off it!
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I love breaking in a new gun. I am glad you finally got through the red tape.cheers
 
Just out of curiosity? Was there any embarrassment from the official you took possession from for all the 
fuss over a 17th century style weapon?

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I predict that you're going to have loads of fun with that rifle. Looks good.

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@Kentucky Colonel wrote:
I love breaking in a new gun. I am glad you finally got through the red tape.cheers
 
Just out of curiosity? Was there any embarrassment from the official you took possession from for all the 
fuss over a 17th century style weapon?

It was one hell of a mission.... 😡

Honestly they are without any sense of embarrassment or shame. I was on the phone to them every couple of weeks enquiring about the process of my application and was basically told each time to pull my head in and accept it. I also discovered that there is no complaints procedure at all! Can you imagine any other service dept anywhere taking that long to perform a service and having zero repercussions??? 🤯

But to answer the question, my rifle was held at the dealer so I didn’t even get the chance to remonstrate with an official.... 😡
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@patocazador wrote:
Flintlocks are finicky. I had to "play" with my .45 for quite awhile to come up with a regimen that assured that it would fire each time.

I have to swab with a damp patch after each shot. I also have to leave the touch hole pick in place when adding powder and a patched ball. If I don't, the powder packs too tightly and misfires occur.

I was swabbing between shots as well as is my habit. 😊

Leaving the touch hole pick in place is an interesting idea though, I’ll have to try it.
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@FrontierGander wrote:
Thats good shooting for a new rifle and learning off it!
Mate, if you could have seen me flinching away from the rifle every time I pulled the trigger you’d have wept with laughter! 😭

It took conscious effort to stay on target, it’s frankly a minor miracle I’m on paper at all!
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@strong eagle wrote:
go to 70 grains. wipe between round. use a .495 round ball. buy some medium weight tight weave pure linen off of the internet. tap ball into the bore with a starter and small rubber hammer. cut off the patch at the muzzle. just set the ball on the powder, never ever tamp it onto the powder. then you will shoot the tightest groups possible with that very very fine gun of yours. lube is your choise, makes no difference.

I’ll give it a go mate! 👍😉
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@RhinoDave wrote:
I predict that you're going to haves loads of fun with that rifle. Looks good.
I suspect that you’re entirely correct my old china! 😁
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@strong eagle wrote:
its that way here also, the wheels of the government move very slow. it took 12 years for the FBI to do investegation (sp) of a drug ring just 25 miles from me on the rez. finally got all of them in one giant swoop. around 12  to 15 people went to prison for life. some were already pretty old. again it took 12 years to get them. at least you didnt have to bribe anyone as some countries have a system of. your going to have fun with that gun. keep it clean and it will last a long time. heard there is a very large U.S. marine corp base being built over their. is that true? that would be good duty.

Yeah apparently the marines have now got a small base in Darwin, they were on the news after they were invited and took part in the ANZAC celibrations.

The marine commander looked a little taken aback at the positivity he and his diggers got from the locals! Smile

True the wheels turn slowly but dammit i'm not a crook, i'm more law abiding the most of the idiots out there....

*sigh* Sorry gents but the system shits me to tears, it really does.
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The Alamo is a nice looking rifle. What powder were you using in the pan?

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@BigAl52 wrote:
The Alamo is a nice looking rifle. What powder were you using in the pan?
I was using the 2F to prime but I’ve got a bit of 4F I’m going to try today.
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Two groups of three at 25 yards using .010 patching and 50 grains of 2F and primed with 4F with first shot going low and right so i discounted it.


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A second group using .015 patching and 50 grains of 2F and primed with 4F at 25 yards, the loose shot to the right was because I twitched...


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A 50 yard group using .015 patching and 50 grains of 2F and primed with 4F. I'm not sure if the loose group was me or something else!


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A couple of patches I recovered, they look pretty good to me! Smile


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@strong eagle wrote:
your patches are perfect.
Yeah i thought they looked pretty good! Smile
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Another thing you can do Mike is open up your touch hole. If you havent done that already. I use 3f in mine and have opened up the touch hole. You will get various recommendations on that but I like to see around a 1/16 on an inch. Al

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@BigAl52 wrote:
Another thing you can do Mike is open up your touch hole. If you havent done that already. I use 3f in mine and have opened up the touch hole. You will get various recommendations on that but I like to see around a 1/16 on an inch. Al

I was just having that exact conversation with a mate of mine tonight, i'm thinking i'll be doing that! Wink
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An update for all you lovely people out there! Very Happy

I got bored and took that as a good excuse to head to the range again this afternoon.

I wanted to see if there was a noticeable difference between .010 and .015 patch material.

I was shooting from the bench at 25 meters, using 60 grains of 2F powder as the main charge and about 1/3 of a pan of 4F for the ignition. I wiped between shots and weighed all my .490 projectiles to within a grain of each other.  

My point of aim was the bulls-eye.

In my first batch, during which i tested the .010 patches, i fired nine shots of which one was an obvious flinch (its under the brick to the right of the shot) so i disregarded it.

As you can see from the top photo, i'm to the right of the point of aim with about a 7 cm group. Now the fact that three of those shots are touching makes me think that this crappy group is shooter error.

The second group in the bottom picture was using the .015 patch material and again resulted in a 7 cm group. and again was to the right of the point of aim.

Any thoughts gents?

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Mike I am thinking it will take  good few shots to break in the bore, bit like what I am doing with my FBG. Did you open up your touch hole? if not I should have some bits for that, by the way am home tomorrow morning, so we could catch up later this week.  The other thing worth a try, hold the forend instead of gripping the stock how you do. I found just resting the barrel on the rest without holding it there never worked for me. You may need a super heavy barrel for that technique. Your rifle is grouping constantly with either patch by the looks. 
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if you rest your barrel on a hard rest that will make your groups open up, lay forearm on a rolled up towel with your hand under it on towel so gun can recoil like it should,should help close them up and will more then likely move your groups over.
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@heelerau wrote:
Mike I am thinking it will take  good few shots to break in the bore, bit like what I am doing with my FBG. Did you open up your touch hole? if not I should have some bits for that, by the way am home tomorrow morning, so we could catch up later this week.  The other thing worth a try, hold the forend instead of gripping the stock how you do. I found just resting the barrel on the rest without holding it there never worked for me. You may need a super heavy barrel for that technique. Your rifle is grouping constantly with either patch by the looks. 
cheers 

Gordon

Morning mate,

I haven't opened up the touch hole yet, I was going to wait until you got back. Also I want to talk to you about coning the muzzle too! Also do you have a 10-32 tap at yours?

Yeah the grouping looks about the same for me as well.

I'm wondering how many shots i'll have to put through it before she settles down, I've seen 100 shots is kind of the magic number.

I've got to admit i was thinking about my resting style last night and wondering if that was affecting my follow through (which is shit at the moment in my opinion).
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@dbowling wrote:
if you rest your barrel on a hard rest that will make your groups open up, lay forearm on a rolled up towel with your hand under it on towel so gun can recoil like it should,should help close them up and will more then likely move your groups over.

I'll give it a try, cheers bud!
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Mike did you happen to take a look at both patches to see if there was one that looked better than the other. I dont use anything less that a .015 patch for myself.

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@BigAl52 wrote:
Mike did you happen to take a look at both patches to see if there was one that looked better than the other. I dont use anything less that a .015 patch for myself.

No I didn’t, that was a bit of a rookie error in hindsight.
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Hey all,

Well this looks promising.  Smile

.490 ball
.010 patch
90 grains of 2F 
wiping between shots

The end result was a 1.5" group.  Very Happy

Needless to say i'll be adjusting the front sights when i go to the range on Thursday.

(Ignore the bulls-eye, i was just seeing if i could use Kentucky windage to put the ball where i wanted it and obviously i did!). 




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Mike there you go ! See you Thursday !

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@heelerau wrote:
Mike there you go ! See you Thursday !

For sure mate, just bring your brass punch! Smile
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Afternoon gents, 

The saga continues.

.490 ball
.010 patch
90 grains of 2F 
wiping between shots


Today was all about going down the range with Heelerau, making some noise, blowing some smoke, shooting some lead and drifting the rear sight over and getting the damn thing hitting roughly on the point of aim. Wink


So on that score it was mission accomplished!  Very Happy


Now I just need to work on beating the flinch, work on my follow through, maybe play around with the patching thickness and possibly we will see some decent groups too!

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Mate, good day all round, pretty happy with my FBG , Dave did well with his two bander.   You got the  ignition with your rifle sorted, and zeroed in. Now just a bit of tweeking, as  you have said with patches, lube and the like. :rtup
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Well I couldn't raise the point of impact by playing with the charge, so I took the plunge and took a file to the front sight of my rifle.

It only took about 20 strokes of the file to lift the POI about six inches.

All the shots were in the black (just) but I am now happy with the elevation and windage. Smile

Now all I have to do is work on my technique to tighten the group, time will tell. Wink

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See, wasn't so bad after all !

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@heelerau wrote:
See, wasn't so bad after all !

Mate, you should have seen me twitching as i started filing..... *shudder*
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PostSubject: Re: My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber    My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber  Empty2018-09-03, 14:41

Hey Mate, when are you going to stand on your hind legs and shoot like a man.  headslap   cowyboy hatoff

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PostSubject: Re: My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber    My new Flintlock Pedersoli Alamo .50 caliber  Empty2018-09-04, 07:52

Decent groupings, Mike. If you are shooting supported on the bench, it is possible the consistent grouping to the right of the bullseye just requires a tap on the front sight to move it slightly.
I. too, had a problem with an otherwise excellent flintlock having flashes in the pan. A drilled out flash hole and all was remedied,
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What Mr. C has stated fits about 80% of flintlock issues, a small vent hole will always result in flashes from my experience. Good Luck Mike, thanks for the help Ron.  :tup2

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Hmmmmm. I only had two flashes but that was due to me not clearing the flash hole consistently. 

Mostly she is a nice fast lock.

I'll have a good look at my groupings this weekend and if needs be give it a whack with the mallet. Wink
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Oh, did I say a whack on the front sight? I find it  more effective to give myself a whack on the side of the head. ;O)))) Very Happy 
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Lol tap, I meant to say tap. But anything involving adjusting the sights with a file or percussive force has a mental drill instructor screaming at me inside my head, asking me just what the actual living fuck do I think I’m doing and to bump out press-ups until my eyes bleed.....

Yeah it’s the squaddie in me, I can’t help being irrational about screwing with non adjustable sights.
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I don't know if it will help your groups or not but when I use 75grs or more of powder I always add a patch below the round ball. I use the same patches as used on the ball but I just barely start a patch and then add the PRB on top of that. The extra patch acts like a firewall and really protects the patch on the ball. Just a thought.
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@burlesontom wrote:
I don't know if it will help your groups or not but when I use 75grs or more of powder I always add a patch below the round ball. I use the same patches as used on the ball but I just barely start a patch and then add the PRB on top of that. The extra patch acts like a firewall and really protects the patch on the ball. Just a thought.

Interesting idea for sure, my patches are in good condition when they come out but it never hurts to try something new. Very Happy
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G'Day all.
                      gave my kentucky  .50 cal. flinter to my son in law .he needed it more than me......

when I first bought it, (Looked like a TRADITIONS)   I had constant misfires.......
I then deepened the pan with a dremel tool
opened the touch hole insert and coned the back.....
 I only used  3 F goex powder for  pan and main charge.......
good quality English flints from a muzzleloading supplier in   IDAHO.
60 grains for  paper punching .....80gr,+ and accuracy  goes away.

 HOME CAST PURE LEAD BALLS.490 AND PATCHES LUBED with wonder lube.....
 no more mis fires after the above mods......ever !!!!!

      I  now shoot a LYMAN .50 CAL TRADE GUN/CAP LOCK  and a SAFARI ARMS .50 cal...cap lock.

 both made in ITALY.....3F seems to be cleaner than  2 F..... again,60 gr. for targets 80-90 for black bear  in 265gr. hardcast flat point in a Thompson Center yellow sabot.

M8TY from PERTH w.a.   LIKED MY FLINTER.....

       CHEERS    Glenno / WASATCH CHARLIE
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