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PostSubject: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 12:54 am

Well most of you know my saga with Lyman.
So I am going to need a new smoke pole.
I don't really want to spend over $500 right now.
Looking a the Traditions Hawken Woodsmans,  the Prairie Hawken & Mountian Rifle.
Kit or Finished.
Also a local person has a new Pedersoli for $400
What say you ?
or Ideas ?
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 3:21 am

@Hylander wrote:
Also a local person has a new Pedersoli for $400

Which model? Depending on the model that might be a great buy.  Pedersoli makes solid guns.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 8:51 am

@BrownBear wrote:
@Hylander wrote:
Also a local person has a new Pedersoli for $400

Which model? Depending on the model that might be a great buy.  Pedersoli makes solid guns.

Traditional Hawken.
Cabelas sells it for $599
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 9:19 am

There are quite a few Hawken-type rifles for sale on various forums. Some are under $300. If you can find one close to you and inspect the bore in person, you can get a good rifle for a moderate price.

Buying a used muzzleloader online is a crap shoot since you can't inspect it prior to purchase.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 9:27 am

@Hylander wrote:
@BrownBear wrote:
@Hylander wrote:
Also a local person has a new Pedersoli for $400

Which model? Depending on the model that might be a great buy.  Pedersoli makes solid guns.

Traditional Hawken.
Cabelas sells it for $599

I'd skip that pedersoli. If its the one with no lock panels, no way! affraid
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 9:32 am

Of all the rifles you listed, I like the Traditions Prairie Hawken the most. I agree with Brownbear that the Pedersolis are very solid rifles but I don't like the way they designed the stock. There is no definition to the lockplates and for some reason they like to have their triggerguards stand proud of the stock. They simply took the old Investarms Hawken style and cheapened it up IMHO Just to give you a little perspective, I bought this Investarms .54 cal at a local gun show.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 10:31 am

I have two Investarm Hawkens, a .58 cal flintlock and a .54 cal perc.  I like both rifles, solid performers.  Your .54cal is a great hunting caliber. You won’t be disappointed.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 11:53 am

@FrontierGander wrote:
@Hylander wrote:
@BrownBear wrote:
@Hylander wrote:
Also a local person has a new Pedersoli for $400

Which model? Depending on the model that might be a great buy.  Pedersoli makes solid guns.

Traditional Hawken.
Cabelas sells it for $599

I'd skip that pedersoli. If its the one with no lock panels, no way! affraid

Not to sound dumb, but what are the lock panels ?
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 7:01 pm

if you can go 750 my friend has a american made traditions from deer island . stock is real maple, barrel is american made by deer island. new sights, pro blueing 1/60 twist for 50 cal. a tack driver with any amount of powder. barrel is cryo treated.these are hard to find and the real deal. he has two of them and i built both of them for him. i know it is a 750 firm and well worth it. you would not go wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 9th 2018, 8:04 pm

I am leaning towards the traditions hawken kit. 
Less than $300
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 10th 2018, 10:31 am

Its a lot of fun to be looking for a new rifle. Don't rush it. Enjoy the search. Find a bargain that feels good. Brag to us after. 

Good hunting.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 10th 2018, 12:06 pm

Got a line on an Investarms .45 Cal for maybe $200

Your thoughts ?
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   February 10th 2018, 8:14 pm

Investarms are good rifles (see mine above). $200 is a very good price as long as it's in good condition. Definately check the bore and lock function. These usually came with pretty nice wood. I was actually looking for a .45 when I found my .54 but the price was too good to pass up.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 10:17 am

What do you all think of this ?
How does the butt stock wood look ?

T/C Hawken Kit
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 10:50 am

T/C Hawkens can be had used for $250 and up. Unless you specifically want to build a kit, you should look at the black powder gun ads here and on other similar forums. 

I have a T/C Hawken and it shoots well. I don't hunt with it because it's too heavy for me to lug around.

There's a .54 T/C Renegade on here for $275.
https://www.frontiermuzzleloading.com/d10036611-tc-renegade-54-cal

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 10:51 am

That Hawken kit would make a nice rifle. It would be brand new and fairly easy to sell if you ever changed your mind and wanted something else.  I like Kentucky Colonel's advice, take your time and shop around.  Sounds like you could be slightly undecided as to what exactly you want so far.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 11:15 am

Want a Hawken style for sure.
1:48 or slower twist.
Kit, No kit undecided, either will do.
I never see a T/C Hawken for anywhere near $250 unless it is in really bad shape.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 11:21 am

Here's an option.

http://www.octobercountry.com/50-caliber-cva-original-mountain-rifle/

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 8th 2018, 9:58 pm

I put a Traditions Hawken kt on hold for myself today at work.
It looks like it will need very little work as there is very little wood proud of the metal.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 7:06 am

You should have bought the CVA I showed you American made.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 9:04 am

Just the barrel pete. The st louis hawken is just as good, if not better IMO. Lord knows ive owned all of them and shot them all lol.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 9:48 am

I don't agree, but won't debate it. Not that important. He already bought a gun.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 11:31 am

Have not bought anything yet.
Just put one on hold.
The CVA is pretty expensive, want to stay about $400 right now.
The Traditions kit is under $300 otd.
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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 11:41 am

No problem. You bought a GPR and thought you were going to spend around that much again.

The CVA is high, but it might be negotiable. If not, it's too high.

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PostSubject: Re: What to buy ?   March 9th 2018, 11:46 am

That CVA does look nice and I like the slower twist, just wanted to stay a bit less expensive.
I might call to see if they will go $550
But I do like building my own stuff as well.
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