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PostSubject: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 11:28 am







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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 11:55 am



Elk skin frock



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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 12:06 pm

man that buffler robe is amazing!
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 12:34 pm

Forgot to say, beaver hat and beaver mitts
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 3:07 pm

I have had so many different period sets of clothing, that after a few years we would change time periods and build new items needed. Early Native American, F&I War frontiersmen, War of 1812, Mountain Men - early and late periods, American Civil War, Westward Movement, Buffalo Hunters, Teddy Roosevelt period with 1895 Winchesters in .405 caliber. 

See what I mean about clothing, camp wares, traveling methods (birchbark canoes to horses, pack animals and everything in between) weapons, very expensive hobby and all documented for correctness. Damn near as costly as drag race cars that the wife never stops complaining about (what's a couple hundred grand $$$) hell it was fun going fast and kicking ass.

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 5:30 pm

I went through those different periods too. 

Artist Marian Anderson was doing a series of paintings for the NWTF some years ago when I met her at an art show here in my area. When she found out I had a real birch bark canoe her and her husband came to my shop after the show. Long story short she ended up doing a painting of me and my canoe for the Mountainman series. She actually did it from a photograph I sent her. In the painting you can see my smoothbore fowler in the bow of the canoe and the osage bow I made in my hand with otterskin quiver on my back. The title of the print was "Longhunter" and it sold out pretty fast.



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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 5:49 pm

Then there was the French Voyager period in the late 70's, I went on a week long lake trek along the north shore of Lake Superior on the Canadian side for over 100 miles along unsettled Provincial Park, it looked like 200 years ago.

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 6:07 pm

From that time period came another painting. I was at Fort Michilimackinac in upper Michigan where our crew was going to participate in a Voyager Canoe race with our 26' North canoe. When I was standing near the lake shore watching the proceedings and waiting for our turn to boat up, unbeknownst to me a Lady artist by the name of Jenne Large snapped a picture of me.

A couple months later I got a letter from her and a picture of the oil painting she did from the photograph. She told me she was entering it in an art show and that it would be available for sale. Long story short, it hangs in my shop still today.

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 6:18 pm

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From that time period came another painting. I was at Fort Michilimackinac in upper Michigan where our crew was going to participate in a Voyager Canoe race with our 26' North canoe. When I was standing near the lake shore watching the proceedings and waiting for our turn to boat up, unbeknownst to me a Lady artist by the name of Jenne Large snapped a picture of me.

A couple months later I got a letter from her and a picture of the oil painting she did from the photograph. She told me she was entering it in an art show and that it would be available for sale. Long story short, it hangs in my shop still today.


I love that one!
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 27th 2018, 6:29 pm

That was 40 years ago... I was Muy Bueno shape, in my prime...my beard hadn't even turned gray yet  Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 9:29 am

I'm like you with Bamba, Whittier, Crandall and a few locals doing paintings of us in various sets of clothing. That was a big deal for some of the Western Artist members, James Bamba did very well as did Jerry Crandall selling prints in the 70's and 80's. Then Hines, Wright, Valazquez and others came up as the artists of the day. 

The nicest artists I have worked with was Jerry Crandall (damn near froze my man parts off in ice water for a trapping painting) and David Wright has always been a favorite gave permission to use one of his paintings (titled "The Mountain Man" - has a NW Trade Gun on his shoulder) for one of my books. When asked what it was going to cost me, he asked "Can you say Please". 

Fun stuff then and now.  t up

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 10:27 am

@NWTF Lobo wrote:
That was 40 years ago... I was Muy Bueno shape, in my prime...my beard hadn't even turned gray yet  Laughing Laughing Laughing
Awesome highlights on some of your past 'Lobo Exclamation   I enjoyed all the photos, especially the canoe/trek pics and stories behind them. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 2:51 pm

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I enjoyed all the photos, especially the canoe/trek pics and stories behind them. 


We nearly bought the farm on that trip. Lake Superior is noted for it's storms and shipwrecks. Our crew was totally PC, no modern stuff at all which meant no life jackets. When we started the trip we hugged the shoreline pretty close even when we had to go into the bay's and inlets. As the days passed we decided to cut across the mouth of the bays leaving us far from shore.

On one particular day as we were crossing a wide stretch of open water we suddenly felt a wind come up from behind us. When we turned to look back the sky was black and a storm was closing in on us. We had been singing French paddling songs but as soon as we saw the storm bearing down on us we turned the canoe towards the shore and put our backs into the paddles. affraid   I was the bow man and we were actually surfing across the whitecaps. With one stroke of the paddle the water was right at the gunnels, then on the next stroke I had to lean down to reach the water. If we had capsized in that cold water we would have all drown. The Almighty must have had his hand on that boat that day.



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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 3:05 pm

This was after my trip on the Big Lake

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 5:25 pm

Turned into a "redskin" huh?  Wink

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 5:55 pm

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Nope, always been, I'm French, Irish and Native American
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 6:38 pm

man you turned redder than a lobster!

I did that once on a canoe. Only I was shirtless. I got so sick that following night from the sun burn that i think i actually had heat stroke. Slept solid for 16 hours and a friend had to wake me up.

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 28th 2018, 6:59 pm

You should try 28 days in 1800-1805 Lewis and Clark clothing, with correct period foods, in canoes going from Ft. Morgan CO to 60 miles south of St. Louis - Ft. deChartre, Ill. That's a 1260 mile trip (river miles) unsupported by anyone. Our faces were that color for the first part then tanned and peeled. What really took a beaten was our knees (bad sunburn), the breeches would ride up exposing your knees. We would wrap our spare shirts around our legs to try and protect the knees. If interested I can post the complete venture for my journal.

Go to the "Hunter's Lodge" and use the search link, type in "1260 Miles One Way".

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 7:54 am

A daily diet of green pea gruel with some chopped jerky was the fare. Needless to say we didn't gain any weight on that trip.



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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 9:55 am

Seems you had a poor cook with such a limited supply of edibles. That's were a knowledge of correct period edibles - cultivated or foraged comes in handy. I had a period correct edibles store for years supplying such items used in camp or on the trail for AMM brothers and trekkers, mountain folks, etc. Everything we carried was dated, period correct and locations with docs of use. 

Mark Baker, Wes Houser and several other writers were our testers and wrote about our supplies and Wes even did a video using our goods - from edibles to correct cooking pots, pans and whatever else we had for sale for camp life accessories. Those guys gave us a large shove ahead with over 150 items had available over the little traders selling parched corn. Clark and Sons Mercantile "shined" for over 10 years until selling the whole operation in 2002. It lasted another couple years until the new owner had health issues and it closed for good. I get asked to start up again, suppliers have changed and now with health stores carrying edibles like "Wild Oats" and a few other about all I can do is give a shopping list of periods, correct and not correct edibles! If I continue to be asked I'll post a list for those interested.

Let's change the time period from what we have done to what we are planning to do and we may get some good suggestions on how to make our journey easier, what do you folks think.  Question   confused  You know, that's were you have to use that old gray matter between your ears ....  Shocked   cheers

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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 12:56 pm

Well, back in that day, nobody had the wide range of choices — and nobody complained about their food. But the voyageurs’ diet — pea soup twice a day — does not seem very nourishing.
To do the continuous work of paddling for 12-14 hours or the harder work of portaging, voyageurs needed 5,000 calories a day! That’s two and a half times the fuel that adults today need. It’s more than marathoners burn in a race.
A little history: In the early fur trade days, canoemen found their own food by hunting, fishing or trading when they came upon friendly Indians with extra provisions. However, that took extra time each day and meant the brigade could not travel as far to trade.
Then, fur trade companies realized the wisdom of having brigades carry their own food from Montreal to the rendezvous. Along with the 55 packages of trade goods each canoe carried, they also toted several bushels of peas, and several hundredweight of biscuit and of pork or grease.
Every night a cook from each canoe poured about nine quarts of peas in their kettle, added a strip of bacon or pork and lake water and hung it on a tripod over the fire to simmer until daylight. In the morning four biscuits were crumbled and added to thicken it, enough so that the stirring spoon stood straight up. Now filling the kettle to the brim, the pea porridge provided two full meals that day for the eight to 12 men in the canoe. They paddled for a hour or so before stopping for breakfast; supper came about 8 p.m.
Over time, when the brigades arrived at Sault Ste. Marie, they could purchase other food supplies, like pemmican made by aboriginal women of various Great Plains tribes. Pemmican is a mixture of dried and pounded buffalo meat and fat, with berries added to improve the flavor. Moose, caribou or even fish might be substituted for buffalo. The mixture was crammed into buffalo-skin bags and topped off with melted fat to make a 90-pound parcel. It could last for months or even a year without spoiling. Best of all, it was such a concentrated source of nutrition that a man needed only two to four pounds a day (compared to eight pounds of fish or fresh meat a day)!
Pemmican could be eaten raw or made into “rubaboo,” a porridge traditionally made of peas or corn (or both) with grease (bear or pork) and a thickening agent (bread or flour). Maple sugar or berries could also be added to the mixture. After six weeks of only pea soup, the men looked forward to rubaboo.
Finally, (this next part came as a surprise to me) pea soup was probably the most nutritious food, delivering the most usable calories for work, that they could have eaten.
Pea protein is particularly high in arginine, an amino acid that is a precursor to creatine, which delivers energy to muscles. It boosts iron so it builds muscle mass as well as other proteins. It might curb appetites better than other proteins do. And — pea protein is free of common allergens that are found in eggs, dairy or gluten.
So the voyageurs probably couldn’t have come up with a better food. Light to carry when dry, cheap, tastes good with added herbs or vegetables. And here we thought they had a poor diet. Wrong.




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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 1:11 pm

Buck, it wasn't that we didn't have a good cook, Charlie was a great survival cook as I'll relate in another story about another trek.

We were following the Voyagers path and living off the kind of food that they did. We very well could had more variety in our diet but that wasn't our intent.
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 1:44 pm

You mentioned Mark Baker, when I first met Mark he was going to school at MSU and was just getting into muzzleloading. He use to come around Jud Brennan's shop a lot. I was there back then making stuff on Jud's forge. Mark was a very likable guy and picked our brains, he wanted to learn all he could about muzzleloading.  He started writing after that and the rest is history.
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PostSubject: Re: FUN DRESSING UP   March 30th 2018, 5:20 pm

We had the same experience with Mark, was going a half dozen ways at once being educated. He got the column in Muzzleloader, wrote some books then finally settled down. We made contact again and I started sending him correct period edibles, he got into the bread baking thing. That was easy had all kinds of different flour from an early grist mill in upper New York state. Those hippies grew all kinds of good stuff, organic food nuts with items you can't find. I spent weeks researching everything they grew or were willing to grow for me if we could just find the seeds. 

Biggest problem was to get a good price I was buying 50 lb. sacks of each of there items, lived in a 2,400 sq. ft. house - built more damn platforms to get everything off the cement floor. Man we had a mini warehouse.

This is funny, I sent Wes Houser and Jeff Hingebaull (wrong spelling) one kind of flour and Mark Baker another kind. Baker wrote about how wonderful "millet flour" was, within a week after the magazine came out I had orders for over 50 pounds, talk about scrambling to fill orders. We use to brag of our 3-5 day turn around on orders. Then the next issue Wes wrote about dried peas and blue parched corn. It was crazy how the new business took off. 

My supplier I met in Santa Fe NM at a rendezvous, was having him do a variety of roasted coffee beans from F&I War to American Civil War, he also supplied me raw beans for those wanting to do their own roasting. John had one roaster catch on fire (common if not cleaned - coffee dust really burns easy) and expensive to rebuild the roaster $10K plus. I'm buying blue corn (Natives have used it for 700 years), we decided to try roasting it. I send him 25 lbs. of sea salt from the Great Salt Lake in Utah (Jim Bridger, Jed Smith and others wrote about it during the fur trade days. We made salted (like found in the cliff dwellings in CO). A surprise it turns out the corn has less dust than the coffee, we're in business on parched blue corn, sold hundreds of pounds over the years.

Now your making me think of all this stuff and now I'll dream of the fun it turned out to be helping guys like you.  :rtup

This is a cleaner view of our listing seen in a half dozen magazines each issue for 9-10 years.


This is a small list of friends that helped when needed in this venture in different ways with sharing the same interests. Thank you folks for believing in me that we could make this work.


I'll start a new topic with our listings, references, time frames and locations found being used.  Later.

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