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PostSubject: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 3rd 2018, 8:28 am

I haven't shot side locks in fifteen years or so and am thinking about buying this.   https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/traditional-muzzleloaders/traditions-springfield-hawken-rifle-r22208101.html    What do you think of it ?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 3rd 2018, 8:48 am

Not my first pick, but it will serve you well. Go for it.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 3rd 2018, 9:56 am

I'd look at the hawken woodsman. The double set triggers will be a huge welcome and the rifles are accurate as hell. Not heavy either.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 3rd 2018, 9:58 am

I think this is a better choice:
I am probably going to buy this in kit form.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 3rd 2018, 11:06 am

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Not my first pick, but it will serve you well. Go for it.

Agreed.....

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:02 am

I must be weird. 50 cals are just boring to me. All these companys are hung on the 50 cal. Ya I know there is loading stuff everywhere for them. There cheaper to shoot. Get a 58 and smoke em.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:05 am

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I must be weird. 

I agree.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:09 am

Id never say that about you Pete

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:11 am

Not taking it as a kidding isn't going to work Al.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:18 am

WOW, "Pete is cheap", is that what you said Al ???  Shocked   Rolling Eyes   affraid   :Hide

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 11:39 am

IMO .58's are impractical. The trajectory is too much like a rainbow. A .54 is big enough.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:26 pm

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Not taking it as a kidding isn't going to work Al.
I took it as kidding Pete and I was being sarcastic

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:47 pm

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@OldMtnMan wrote:
Not taking it as a kidding isn't going to work Al.
I took it as kidding Pete and I was being sarcastic
Ok, I wasn't sure if you were serious. I thought you were getting as grumpy as me.  pirat

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:56 pm

That could be possible after 40 plus years around a bunch whinny cry baby truck drivers Im getting there. If I spend much more time there I might even pass you.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 7:58 pm

You do know i'm a retired truck driver? You'll never pass me.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 4th 2018, 8:09 pm

Nope I didnt know that but that explains everything. Ive drivin worked local and been in the office for 10 years. With the new regs and all the other stuff that goes with it Im about over it.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 5th 2018, 7:42 am

Oh crap, the brotherhood begins now that they know they were both "keep on truckin" kind of guys".


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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 5th 2018, 7:47 am

Not the way he rags on drivers. We had a name for drivers who gave up driving for the office. I won't say what it is.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 5th 2018, 8:50 am

Smart?  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 5th 2018, 8:57 am

If you call earning less money smart.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 5th 2018, 10:15 pm

Sorry Pete I was asked to go into the office. Different deal where Im at. And I do make more in the office than I ever did driving. I dont rag on the drivers. We have some really good ones but there is always those few that are drivers that require alot more maintenance than the others. You can say whatever you want about guys who go into the office doesnt bother me. Been there 32 years and most of the drivers come to me when there is issues. I respect all of them even the ones that require more maintenance.

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TC Renegade 58 cal
GRRW 50 cal
GRRW 58 cal
Lyman GPR 54 cal flintlock L&R lock davis deerslayer trigger
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 6th 2018, 6:16 am

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You do know i'm a retired truck driver? You'll never pass me.

I drove for JB Hunt back in the '80's everyone passed me.

Boy I just Love looking over the Trucks now. Tell my wife I sure would like to still be doing that. She always says you're too old.  Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil Mad

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 6th 2018, 7:15 am

I drove a city bus in Chicago in the '60s. If I never see another bus or that kind of traffic, I'll be happy.

I always take the back roads when I'm on a trip now, the interstate hiways keep me tense the whole time .. mainly because of the #$@%! trucks.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 6th 2018, 7:33 am

Cmon Al. First you say:

"That could be possible after 40 plus years around a bunch whinny cry baby truck drivers"




Then you say;


I don't rag on truck drivers"




Not sure what you made in the office. I worked for Oilfield Trucking in LA driving tankers. We made $1000-$1200 a week. That was a lot hours, but that's what we made.


I left there and drove for a small contractor. He bought me a new Peterbuilt and Hanson end dump trailer. Also a lowbed. I hauled heavy equipment on lowbed and demo in the end dump. He paid me $28 hr. I worked about 50 hours a week. I did that for 20 years.


That job was the best ever. He gave me a month off every year to come to Colorado to hunt. I'd still be doing it if I didn't lose the sight in my right eye. That forced me to retire early.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   April 6th 2018, 8:26 am

For 6 years I drove between CO, WY, UT and NM doing maintenance on 91 building sites, taking care of security issues, and anything from plumbing, electrical to heating and air conditioning. Worked with OSHA and other safety firms for those buildings along with remodels, new construction, additions. I was told by the company I was the highest paid mechanic because of the time spent behind the wheel getting double time on Fri. and Sat. usually working 55-60 a week. Always drove a Ford F450 4X4 van and usually about 4,000 to 5,000 over weight (wind played hell with you in the winter month). We were certified first aid and were told to help anyone we saw in our travels, stop and provide help. The semi truck drivers from the south were always in trouble during winter months in CO, WY, UT and NM. Man talk about the roll overs, would stop and get them loaded up and take the drivers to the next town for help. Those guys would cuse the dispatchers, the state, the roads, their company, you name it, unhappy campers. If one out of a dozen thanked you for helping them, that would be normal. Finally had to change jobs within the company after a roll over with a broken back. We all have good and bad experiences driving over the road, if asked would I do it again, hell yes.

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