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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 9:16

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Welcome, you'll enjoy yourself here.

The first was bought about a year before that so I have been shooting black powder for 24-25 years. Wow, I didn't realize that till just now........Time flys, many here has realized this when talking about their guns.

I almost gave up on BP because I just couldn't hit anything with my rifle. (Cabelas .54 Hawken) Then I bought a Sam Fadala black Powder book and figured out the thin .010 patches I was using were too thin.......Sam was a good friend, think of him often.

I am considering buying a better rifle like one from TVM. I just can't decide what I want. I do like the Hawken style rifle they offer........ .......Take a look at Green River Rifle Works Collector Association[GRRW.CA], the gunsmiths are the same guys that built GRRW guns 40 years ago. Seen at:http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/index.htm

I really like .45 caliber rifles......Like just mentioned we can build anything you have in mind at:http://grrw.ca.tripod.com/index.htm

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 10:34

Buck you speak as if Sam has left us. I certainly hope not. I did a google search but could find nothing of his demise. Do you know something I don't?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 14:07

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Buck you speak as if Sam has left us. I certainly hope not. I did a google search but could find nothing of his demise. Do you know something I don't?

He's still kicking, we just moved around and lost contact in our later years like so many.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 14:13

Burlesontom, I have more than one TVM and they are excellent. My favorite caliber is .45 and shooting prb. I've killed a whole bunch of deer with that .45; killed a lot with several other rifles but the .45 remains my pick. The .45 is a TVM late Lancaster style flintlock. At TVM you can choose the stock wood and the dimensions of the final stock. Also your choice of barrel, lock, etc.

My go-to .45.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 14:40

Another .45. This one was built by Mike Lange, a very talented guy. Unfortunately, he is no longer building guns, at least temporarily. This is one of his "rugrat" rifles taylored for youngsters. I'm small enough that it fits me perfectly.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 16:13

Buck thats good that ole' Sam is still with us. He is a man I would like to meet and shake his hand and say thanks for teaching me to shoot my BP rifle.

Hanshi those are really nice rifles but you need to stop it. I can resist anything but temptation and you are surely tempting me. Sad

I am considering listing about 3 different guns I don't shoot on Gunbroker just to get a little cash to buy a new BP rifle.

I have an order of potasium nitrate on its way so I can try my hand at making black powder. I am really enthused about shooting some BP rifles again. Its been a long time.

And I have spent a couple of hours or better on the TVM website the last couple of days looking at their rifles. I even talked to Jack Garner on the phone many years ago about one of his rifles.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 16:58

I also enjoyed the BP books by Sam Fadala!

There's a Sam N Fadala Sr living in Wyoming, and a Sam N Fadala (no Sr or Jr listed) living in Arizona. Sure hope he's doing well and that one of his friends sees this thread, and passes along the well wishes.

As for going Traditional again... Good for you!

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 17:27

Hanshi this is the gun I am looking at the hardest. I have wanted one of these for many years. Way back when they sold for $500. I should have bought one then. Not as traditional as a TVM rifle but the right caliber, weight and length. Should make an excellent hunting rifle for the smaller whitetail deer we have here in Tx.

Well dern it. Since I am a new member I cannot post a link for 7 days. But the gun is a Pedersoli .45 caliber scout carbine. Full stock 28" barrel with double set triggers and a 1/48 twist. No patch box which is OK by me and a slide adjustable rear sight elevator. A plain, simple rifle that is just a tool.

It now sells for $750 shipped from Dixie Gun Works
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Wed 11 Apr - 17:47

Old No. 7 The OP is the one going traditional again. That was Muznut. (where is he anyway?) I have always shot side locks and one flinter. I have no interest at all in an inline gun. They just don't do it for me. I sort of blame the inline guns for wrecking the traditional market. All those new shooters who wanted to hunt early or late BP seasons bought inlines because it was "easier". And once the challenge was removed it became boring. Thankfully there were those who stayed with the "real" BP style of rifles.

If I have to get closer to make a kill then thats OK. Its what hunting is all about. Some like to brag about the long shot they made to kill and animal. They never say much about the long range misses and wounded animals. I like to get close. Thats what I brag about. Beating a high strung deer at his own game of hide and seek. And I don't hunt feeders. I stalk or watch trails and rubs. I never hunt the same spot twice in the same week.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Thu 12 Apr - 9:41

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I am considering listing about 3 different guns I don't shoot on Gunbroker just to get a little cash to buy a new BP rifle.

...... TVM website the last couple of days looking at their rifles (now owned by Jack's son-in-law).

I even talked to Jack Garner on the phone many years ago about one of his rifles.
I had dozens of Ron Long locks (flint and percussion), Siler kits, same with Douglas & Green Mountain barrels and many pre-carved stocks. All purchased from muzzleloading dealers I bought out in our area in CO, WY, NM. Saw Jack at a rendezvous at deChartre in IL told him about the inventory, he followed us home to Colorado. I traded everything that wasn't moving for assembled guns in the "white". That lead to taking Jack and Freddie Harrison (his wood guy) on their first buffalo. Which ended up with all of us going on several hunts over the years and meeting many of their friends that tagged along. Fun times ....

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Thu 12 Apr - 11:40

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Hanshi this is the gun I am looking at the hardest. I have wanted one of these for many years. Way back when they sold for $500. I should have bought one then. Not as traditional as a TVM rifle but the right caliber, weight and length. Should make an excellent hunting rifle for the smaller whitetail deer we have here in Tx.

Well dern it. Since I am a new member I cannot post a link for 7 days. But the gun is a Pedersoli .45 caliber scout carbine. Full stock 28" barrel with double set triggers and a 1/48 twist. No patch box which is OK by me and a slide adjustable rear sight elevator. A plain, simple rifle that is just a tool.

It now sells for $750 shipped from Dixie Gun Works



Actually, that Pedersoli rifle is a very decent choice. I owned and hunted with their "Super Cub" .50 for many years and it accounted for deer with the flint lock AND percussion installed - I had both locks for it. It's the same rifle as the Scout but has a patchbox. Very accurate, sweet handling and easy to carry.

Sorry about my tempting you so much, actually I'm not the least bit sorry. :Chief scratch Cool Twisted Evil

I ended up selling most all my modern guns just to get muzzleloaders; one never has enough of them. The Cub is the middle gun. Don't know why the blasted computer insisted on putting the little caplock on the message, aaaarrrggh...

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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Thu 12 Apr - 16:37

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Sorry about my tempting you so much, actually I'm not the least bit sorry.

I strongly suspected you weren't. nono

Right now Dixie has a Cub 40 caliber for $475 IIRC. Boy howdy I am tempted. Especially since I cast .395 round balls to make 3 ball loads in my .410 shotguns. But I guess I will hold out for a .45 and just pay the extra bux for one.

My long dead bud had a cub 40 cal for his wife to shoot. His son got it when he passed away but I got his cannon with a 2" bore. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Thu 12 Apr - 17:02

You can't beat a .45, my friend. I've owned more in that caliber than any others.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm thinking about going traditional again.   Thu 12 Apr - 17:46

I have owned around 5-6 45s so far. my current gun is a Cabelas Hawken I bought as a kit back in the 1990s for $129 delivered to my door. It has the prettiest wood stock on it. It looks like brown and gold bands deep in the wood. And man will that gun shoot. I shoot PRB and also Lee R.E.A.L. 200gr conical. Those also shoot well but after 50 yards they hit just a little lower.

My bud was so impressed with the wood on my gun he ordered one for himself. His wood looks similar to Sitka Spruce used to make home made aircraft because it is so straight grained and plain looking. But his gun shoots as good as mine. Its just ugly.
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