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PostSubject: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 22nd 2018, 7:18 pm

Got myself into a pickle!

I have some old gearhart owen 2fg, goex 3f and pyrodex P. All 3 of our rifles shoot all 3 powders lights out. I was going to use 3f goex but then I remembered that old GO and decided to take 8 powder tubes of that for my hunting load.

My dad and brother are all set up with the pyrodex.

I hate carrying different powders hunting, and so I am considering just going with the Pyrodex P in all 3 rifles. I got them all set up perfectly, they shoot it excellent, easy to reload. So maybe I am just stressing out over nothing and should refill my tubes with Pyrodex P and be done with it.

Its only July, hunt starts in September, so its nice to get all of this squared away and done long ahead of the hunt. I don't even have to adjustment my sights or anything! Built my Hawken over 2 years ago and havent adjusted since then. Love that rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 22nd 2018, 8:00 pm

I personally like Goex best.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 5:51 am

How much difference is there?

For me I like Pyrodex anymore because it is easy to get.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 7:14 am

Black powder for me all the way.   Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 9:41 am

I like real black powder best. I know its hard for some to get a hold of without having it shipped in.

I just bought 6 pounds of Alliant Muzzleloader MZ but haven't tried it yet. I posted about it in the Blackpowder section over at thefiringline forum and one responder kept comparing it to Kitty Litter in size. Here is my thread.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596610

I got mine from Sportsmans Warehouse for $10 a pound. In open burning test it seems good. If it ever cools off around here from the 100* plus days I will give it a real test and report the results here.

What Hawken rifle do you have?
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:07 am

This is a no-brainer. All of you shoot Goex the real powder.

Why shoot old technology in a gun and then use modern powder? Might as well use a sabot too.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:28 am

Burlesonton, It is kitty litter size. That was me responding of course.

I think I am going to let my dad and brother use Pyrodex P since that is what they are dialed in with. My dad can not shoot his rifle to much due to bruising badly on his arm from the recoil. I got my loads already ready to go, so 80gr 2fg Gearhart Owen it is!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:34 am

Where did you find that old powder? That was between Dupont and Goex.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:41 am

My ex girl friend works with a fellow that used to shoot BP and he mentioned he had some stuff for sale and she bought me 3 lbs of it, along with all kinds of round balls and other items. I use it very little as its a  great accurate powder!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:50 am

Yes Jon I knew that was you. I just wanted to Razz you a little. Tease

I think you made the right choice on the powder. Nothing better than real black powder.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:53 am

I think so to! I got the other guys rifles set up with great nipples to set the pyrodex off, so I think they will be good to go.

I tried to install a new spit fire nipple I bought for mine but that sob was to long and did not seat up against the drum Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:58 am

"My ex girl friend works with a fellow that used to shoot BP and he mentioned he had some stuff for sale and she bought me 3 lbs of it, along with all kinds of round balls and other items".


And you let her get away???


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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:58 am

I don't know how much your dad and brother are into traditional muzzleloading, but you of all people should be using nothing but real black.

Read your PM's.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:04 am

Limited stock Pete. I got a ton of pyrodex and its nice and accurate.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:07 am

Yeah, but it's....................pyrodex. Barf.....

You know better. Use it up and get real BP, or just let your brother and dad use it all.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:13 am

LOL that Pyrodex out shot every person at rendevous last year. Even out did them with some chunky American pioneer my friend had in his horn. Talk about a close call to! I used all my powder first and had to use his APP horn for my last 3 or 4 shots, including one at 125 yards off hand crazy You talk about starting to sweat at the end!
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:22 am

I know it works Jon. Burns cleaner too. However, it's just wrong if you want to be traditional and I know you do.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:34 am

:shh
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:35 am

Unless you ride a horse or mule into the rendezvous,nobody is 100% traditional.

I prefer Goex or Swiss,but have no problems using Pyrodex.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 11:40 am

@tranders wrote:
Unless you ride a horse or mule into the rendezvous,nobody is 100% traditional.

I prefer Goex or Swiss,but have no problems using Pyrodex.
I know. I hear that all the time. You can be as traditional as possible and easily done for the shooting.

If I could get away with riding a horse instead of driving my Jeep i'd do it. It's not practical. Some compromises need to be made. Like talking to you on a computer.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 12:29 pm

@OldMtnMan wrote:

I know. I hear that all the time. You can be as traditional as possible and easily done for the shooting.

If I could get away with riding a horse instead of driving my Jeep i'd do it. It's not practical. Some compromises need to be made. Like talking to you on a computer.
 Well as long as its a period correct computer with a distressed leather cover and elephant ivory keypad its OK. t up

I would like to say I have shot a ton of Pyrodex but I have really only shot about 3 pounds of it. And it worked fine. If it was all I could get then thats what I would use and wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I like traditional BP but I am not a true traditionalist shooter. I don't like inlines and prefer round balls but you will never find me in the woods in an 18th century suit of clothes. I don't have any. I like the spirit of what went before. If I belonged to a BP club I might be a little more particular about accuracy.

I do load and shoot from a leather pouch. I use an inline capper. I have a deer antler short starter I made many years ago. But thats about as far as I have went. What concerns me is what works and what will put a ball in a deer or through the bullseye at 75 yards.
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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 1:38 pm

I'm not into it like Jon is. I was once but not anymore. I will only use real BP in a sidelock but i'm not beyond using a different weapon. Even inlines. 30-30 Win 94 or Marlin, crossbow, Rem 700 in .270. I've used and would still use any one of them.

What never changes and hasn't in over 60 years is how I hunt. Still hunting with no tricks like calling, long shot, tree stands, bait, dogs, etc. If I can't fool the game by sneaking up on it. It gets a free pass.

No bias for what others do. This is just my rules for me.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 8:13 pm

Strange used Dogs many years ago but don't hardly anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Not sure what powder to go with   Not sure what powder to go with EmptyJuly 23rd 2018, 10:04 pm

well the old man is almost sighted in! Rain ran us off the range but a few more shots and he will be set and ready to go.
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