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PostSubject: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 10:48

My nephew sent me this picture this morning. 2017 Dodge Challenger RT with factory installed Firestone tires. The car only has 14,100 miles on it and today he found this! Looks like firestone is going back to their old ways and tire separation.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 11:12

I've never bought a Firestone tire. I doubt I ever will.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 11:19

I know I won't buy them! I contacted firestone and they are sending him over to a local shop that is authorized to inspect their tires. If its a flaw, they will replace it.... With another flawed product Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 11:40

Yes, but it will be a new flawed product. Firestone seems to think that's ok.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 12:01

The company I spent 31 years working for was using Firestone Tires.  One morning I was headed out to a job and had a blowout on the ramp of the Interstate, thank God I was going about 30.  I called the tire shop and they came out and put my spare (Firestone) on.  That very afternoon on my way in doing about 50 on a  state highway I blew that tire out.  The shop came out again to put a tire on just to get me back in town.  All of our Trucks got new tires the next day and we never used Firestone again.  When we go vehicle shopping the first thing I check is the tires.  If they're Firestone I move on.  I'll never drive again on their crappy tires!
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-08, 13:43

You'd think in 2018 they could figure out how to make a tire. Everybody else has.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-10, 11:21

I had 4 Goodyear tires cup out on me after only 10k miles. Every outfit seems to start putting out crappy products after awhile ... thus ruining a good reputation that took decades to build up.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-10, 16:03

Were are these tires made? Mark
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-12, 06:16

Been driving noting but Firestone for decades.  Never had a problem and they have lasted many miles.  

They did get a bad rep with the Ford Explorer wrecks that happend in the 90's, but that was because Ford said to run them with only 22 psig!  That's what's printed on my door panel sticker.  Run them at 32 psig and no problems in 165,000 miles.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-12, 07:33

My Toyota Tacoma has about 45,000 miles on Firestone Destination tires.   One was replaced at no cost under the road hazard warranty because of a puncture.  

My son says BF Goodrich eliminated the mileage guarantee of their All Terrain tires.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-12, 09:19

I've got a set of Cooper tires on my truck now. They replaced the B. F. Goodrich OE tires. One of the Goodrich tires blew out and almost caused me to crash at 70 mph. They had 62,000 on them but they shouldn't have blow-outs.
I am real happy with the Coopers except the cost. Still, they were $100 cheaper than the BF Goodrich for a set of 4.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-12, 09:24

Ford recommended 26psi and Firestone said it should be 30psi. A pretty sad tire that can't run 4psi low without falling apart and blowing. I run the tires on my Jeep at 20psi with no problems and have done it for 15 years.

Firestone tires have killed 271 and injured 823. They've recalled 23 million tires in their history.

No thanks! There are much better tires available.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-14, 06:54

Didn't Bridgestone buy or partner with Firestone?  I had a '92 Mazda PU with Bridgestone Tires from the Factory which gave good service.  I try to buy Michelin now although the last set of tires I bought for the wife's Toyota were a different brand.  I can't remember the name of those tires now, but they were made in Korea and came highly recommended by the Service Center I use.  I would walk outside to check the name, but last January a young lady decided that she didn't like our car and hit us almost head on totaling our beloved Toyota Venza which was the best car we've ever owned.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-14, 13:15

I had a 92 Ranger 4x4 came with Firestone Wranglers on it had over 80,000 miles on them when I replaced them never even had a flat on one. Only really bad tires I had was a set of Dunlops I put on a 88 Ranger they had to have magnets inside if there was a nail or screw on the road they would find it .Took them off way before they even showed much tread wear .Just couldnt afford the time and expense of all the flats.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-18, 08:31

The early Explorers came with "P" rated tires (passenger car) which made them feel top heavy and prone to rollovers. I switched to "LT" rated tires (light truck) and the problem was gone.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-18, 09:25

@mark1945 wrote:
Only really bad tires I had was a set of Dunlops I put on a 88 Ranger they had to have magnets inside if there was a nail or screw on the road they would find it .

Your post made me go out to confirm that I have Dunlop's on my '13 Tacoma.  Yes they do indeed seem to have magnets inside as I'm had two flats on them in the 36K miles I have on the truck.  My last truck was a '98 4-Runner ,which in 215K miles, I never experienced a flat running Michelin tires.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-18, 10:13

I use Cooper on my Jeep. Best mud tire i've found so far if you do on and off road.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-23, 13:48

The Dunlops I have on my truck ride good and seem to be wearing good.  I rotate them every oil change (5K) and the wear seems to be even on all of the tires.  Even though they're 5 years old and even though my truck sits outside in the weather, they do not seem to be dry rotting any at all.  I hope to get 60K or more out of them, but I think they'll crack and rot before the truck reaches that many miles.  I hope that I can afford to replace them with Michelins which I consider the best tire on the road. 

BTW, my brother spent close to 40 years working for Goodyear, yet for the last 15 years or so that he worked for them he did not run their tires.  He kept Michelins on both his car & truck.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-23, 18:22

In 1990 i came close to dying in Saudi Arabia when the right rear tire on my new company Blazer blew out at 85-90 mph.   Vehicle went off the right side of the road.  Thankfully the highway had no curb or ditch.   

That new Blazer came without desert tires.  Company proposed buying desert tires.  OPM SANG (US Army) said they had Bridgestone Desert Dueler tires on hand.  There was less than 1,000 miles on those tires when the blowout happened.  Pieces of the tube were paper thin and coated with rubber dust.   Yep, they put bias ply tubes in radial tires that squirmed the tubes to death.    

Got a new set of tubeless Desert Duelers and they were great.
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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-27, 10:43

I forgot to mention and some may not be aware of this. Like everything we buy there's always the "shelf life" factor. I had heard this years ago and then passed it off, never giving it a second thought.

Back in 2004 for a birthday present I bought the wife a new car - 2004 Volvo XC70 (at the time was rated the safest car on the road). She had done a ton of research on the safest vehicle, AWD in an SUV style. Volvo for the mid range $40-$50K range had the best ratings. We had talked about a new vehicle and done nothing, had seen a moca colored Volvo in the show room the past weekend that she liked but didn't like the $42K price tag. I beat it to the dealership Monday and purchased the car having them place a foot wide red ribbon around the car like a Christmas gift. On the way home from work that day we stopped at the dealership, she spotted the XC70 with the red ribbon, that pissed her off. "Crap its sold" was her reply, then the sales manager asked if she liked the car, then hanged her the keys "Its Yours". She went crazy. The car is in new condition after 14 years with only 29,450 original miles. For the heck of it I took it to the dealership for the car's 30,000 mile check up. First thing was "that's probably 230,000 miles not 29,000 miles."  Then the sales manager comes from the shop "That's a new/old car", no shit. They did the service and then told me we need to get new tires.

After checking different sources I find out that most tires today have only a 10 year life per the government ratings. The different manufacturers have that information available by the tire's serial number and can tell you when it was made, what dealership purchased the tire and how long its been in his inventory. That's nice but who has the time to mess with this. That's what I thought until I had a company truck blow a front tire that caused the vehicle to roll over (totalled). The state and the insurance company got involved and found that Ford Fleet Services purchased a number of the E350 vans with Firestone tires (a special deal from Firestone). Turned out the tires had been in their inventory for 4-5 years before being put on these trucks. Now six years later we started having tire issues and I rolled one at 50 miles an hour. 

Scary shit we are dealing with, being blind to what is going on.

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PostSubject: Re: Firestone tires - Back to their old ways?   Firestone tires - Back to their old ways? Empty2018-08-27, 10:56

No problem for me. I'm lucky to get two years out of my mud tires. Sheesh!

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