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PostSubject: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyAugust 20th 2018, 9:36 am

Does anyone cap the nipples and then load cylinders?

I have mixed feelings about this. I put the cap on by hand and then use a little wooden rod to press it firmly.  Then repeat 5 more times. After they are all capped, I like to lower the hammer and give a little squeeze on the cap. This way, the cap stays put and makes a good seal too.  

I've never had a cap go off while doing this, but if it happens (and it eventually will) it is just a fairly harmless cap going off. 

Loading the cylinders first, I then put the cap on by hand or with a capping tool, and then follow up with the wooden stick. However, the caps are never as snug and secure as when I lower the hammer carefully on them too. With the cylinder loaded, I am reluctant to do this because I have to really control the pistol and the surprise should one discharge. But when I shoot, sometimes the fired caps come off and cause a jam. They do not come off if when I put the caps on before loading the cylinder as described above.

The nipples and caps are a match - in other words they are proper fit. 

Any thoughts on this either way?
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyAugust 20th 2018, 9:50 am

You really don't have the proper fit like you think. I shot in CAS competition for decades. That means two handguns shot as fast as possible as it's a timed event. All I had to do is push the caps on with a capper and they never fell off before or after being fired. I used two 1860 Colts which aren't cap friendly like the Remingtons

If we ever capped before loading we'd get banned from ever shooting again.

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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyAugust 20th 2018, 9:57 am

Thanks.  I have two sets of nipples. One hold the #10's. When I fired and rotate the cylinder the fired cap tends to fall off the now empty cylinder on the right of the barrel. With the #11 nipples the caps stay on the nipple but sometimes move back some or have a seam and cause a bind. Any advice?
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyAugust 20th 2018, 10:27 am

I know a lot of guys used the Treso nipples.

There was a guy who was always at the shoots who sold custom nipples that he fit to a CCI #11 cap. I know he would fit them on a lathe for a perfect fit. They pushed on easy and were a bitch to get off. I never had one fall off.

You go through a lot to get yours all the way down. It sounds like your actually spreading out the cap to get it down. A perfect fit will push all the way down but tighten up at the same time it bottoms out. A cap has to be bottomed out to prevent misfires.

You could try different brands of caps and nipples for a better fit. Or, find a way of turning down the nipple for a proper fit to the cap.

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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyAugust 20th 2018, 3:10 pm

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptySeptember 24th 2018, 10:29 am

You saying you put caps on first and THEN load the cylinders with the gun pointing right at your face?

I load the cylinder first and the LAST thing I do is cap the nipples. I cap it from an inline capper most of the time and before I load the capper I give each cap a little bit of a squeeze. Just barely enough to give each cap a bit of an egg shape.

It makes a big difference in making sure they STAY capped.

Once the cylinder is capped I'll go around once just setting the hammer down easy on each cap to be sure each one really is fully down. No need to "push" on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptySeptember 27th 2018, 1:17 pm

Some of these revolver events in the mid west are now having you cap the weapon just before stepping up to the firing position (line). From the last half dozen events I have been at you wouldn't have time to do all the steps your doing Jack.   Dunno
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyNovember 30th 2018, 8:33 am

The force of the hammer striking the cap against the nipple at the same time the heat from the explosion weakens it allows SOME to tear. Increasing the powder charge raises the pressure increasing the chances the cap will tear and be blown back off the nipple. It is all part of the normal use of C&B revolvers. It is to be expected.

If these forces are not obvious to you, may be C&B revolvers are not for you. They sell conversion cylinders for people who can not handle the searing pain created by an occasional toasty cap tapping their skin on it's way to the ground.

The only real significance of this occurring is when that cap jams the revolver during a gun fight turning it in to a club. Which was a common occurrence when gun fights with these weapons was common. There was never in the past 200 years a solution developed other than the ones I have given you other than manning up and learning to deal with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Capping the nipples on BP revolver   Capping the nipples on BP revolver EmptyNovember 30th 2018, 6:21 pm

@Buck Conner wrote:
Some of these revolver events in the mid west are now having you cap the weapon just before stepping up to the firing position (line). From the last half dozen events I have been at you wouldn't have time to do all the steps your doing Jack.   Dunno
You do everything but put the cap on before you are at the line right?

Wouldn't you put the caps in a line capper prior to the event?

So you cap every nipple, then run around the cylinder one time letting the hammer just set on each cap once and you are ready.

They won't give you time to do that one time?

If not then I recon you'd have to take John Booker's advice and load in the manner you see fits the circumstance young man.
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