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OldMtnMan

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 10:58

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We're talking about fur trade mountain men Buck. Crude, simple, and not convenient. I'm sure they used the main powder horn for the pan.

Stoney was wondering how old the spring loader value has been used Pete. Just answering his question.
When it was used and was it available might be quite different. I think the MM tried to keep things simple so they would break in the mountains miles from civilization. I believe that's why they stayed with flintlocks.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 10:59

What about some of these, its a start for researching bud:

https://buenavistasportsmansclub.org/


https://www.google.com/search?lei=pQqQW9LIMcSItQXhrrq4Dw&q=colorado%20west%20gun%20club&ved=0ahUKEwih7K20qqTdAhUCPq0KHUbpCjUQsKwBCAYoBA&biw=1146&bih=630



http://wheretoshootcolorado.com/

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 11:06

@OldMtnMan wrote:
@Buck Conner wrote:
@OldMtnMan wrote:
We're talking about fur trade mountain men Buck. Crude, simple, and not convenient. I'm sure they used the main powder horn for the pan.

Stoney was wondering how old the spring loader value has been used Pete. Just answering his question.
When it was used and was it available might be quite different. I think the MM tried to keep things simple so they would break in the mountains miles from civilization. I believe that's why they stayed with flintlocks.

Most don't realize that many of the weapons that came to the fur trade were military muskets (early on), guns used when enlisted in the War of 1812 and later. For pay many took their weapons and headed west, flints were preferred because of flint rock was available for the looking (don't find percussion caps laying around). Most of the equipage used was what they had when leaving for this new adventure (the fur trade and riches they thought).

I need to get back to putting up information under the topic "Primitive Lifestyle" that Jonathan has listed. Got side tracked with yard work, doing a little shooting and health issues. Have same deal as Jonathan, need to have an MRI with the dye to see if I have an artery being pinched off and limiting blood flow to the brain? Causing signs of blacking out, dizziness, weakness, troubling walking. Carp it's always something.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 11:19

Exactly. My persona is I was born and raised in Mass. When I decided to go west after a divorce. I passed through PA and bought an Isaac Haines rifle in .50 for the bigger game out west. I was using a smooth bore in Mass and didn't want to use it out west.

That's my story for ending up in Colorado with an Isaac Haines. It's not too far off my real life and still works in 1820.

I'm not looking for a gun club Buck. I know what's around me. I'm looking for a club that has black powder events. The closest one is the one I mentioned. Nobody shoots traditional muzzleloaders around here. There's a guy who lives in Salida that's a member of the AMm, but like I said. he was one of the ones who ignored my emails.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 14:08

For those who don't know the name Isaac Haines, he was one of the most educated and sophisticated gun builders of his time. His surviving work is a testament to the skills and artistic eye that this prominent gun maker used in the production of such beautiful early 1770’s American longrifles.

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That's a good start for your persona Pete. Many of the folks I have talked to don't know who or what they want to me. Yours is like mind we both know where our roots started and you move forward with that in mind. Excellent.  :tup2 

Coming from Mass you will pickup misc. items from the different areas you travel as you work your way in into the Arkansas River Valley and the area of what would become Buena Vista Colorado first settled in 1864 by settlers drawn to the area by the plentiful water which made the land suitable for agriculture. Alternate pronunciations include "Bwenna Veesta" (Spanish pronunciation) and simply "Biewnie. You would be one of the first white men in the area, probably more Mexicans and Indians than any other race at the time. An original fur trapper trying to make a living at his trade.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 14:18

Actually, that's not how you pronounce it. That's the Spanish way to say it but this town was named by a white woman and she was fussy on how to pronounce it. If you said it the way you think everybody would know you're a tourist.

I'll let you think about how to say it.  pirat

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The spelling came from Webster.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 14:47

I didn't mention spelling. I'm talking about how to pronounce it.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 14:55

Watch the video.

https://es-la.facebook.com/nowthisiscolorado/videos/how-do-you-say-buena-vista/10156182620018146/

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 15:02

@OldMtnMan wrote:
Watch the video.

https://es-la.facebook.com/nowthisiscolorado/videos/how-do-you-say-buena-vista/10156182620018146/
I know my Spanish is a little rusty these days, but no matter how you pronounce it. It means Beautiful View. Just  2c
Stoney

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Yes, it has that. I can see it out my window right now.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 15:57

@OldMtnMan wrote:
Yes, it has that. I can see it out my window right now.

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WOW... Pete. Gorgeous!!!! Nothing like around here. I'm in the mountains of N.E. Pa. and this is nice, but that's fantastic. No wonder they call it God's Country!!
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Here's Pete's bathroom Stoney.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-05, 16:01

Thanks, bud. It is a nice place to live.

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Those pesky bears Buck.

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You must have good bait to get them that close Pete.....  headslap

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They like my stink.  Very Happy

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@OldMtnMan wrote:
They like my stink.  Very Happy

apparently ...  lol!

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Here's Pete's bathroom Stoney.
Don't knock the out house Buck. I spent many a cold Winter's day and hot summer taking myself to ours when I was a kid. My biggest worry was Copperheads in the outhouse! I never had indoor plumbing until I was 10. Pot Belly stove in the kitchen, parlor stove in the living room. Mom washed dishes and we took bathes with water from the hand cranked well. I thought we were doing pretty well? Then I found Electricity... DAMN I'm OLD... We had party line phones until I was 12. One long and 2 short, that was our ring, and you could listen in on the other person on the line. Twisted Evil  I heard a lot of crazy crap when I was a kid with that party line!  Embarassed
 Did my knife and sheath photos make it to the web? I posted them to the Mountain Man craft page???? I think?? Thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: New powder horns   New powder horns - Page 2 Empty2018-09-07, 18:40

Hi guys (gals)
 That little Black priming horn with the valve is sold. It went to a good friend of mine in Co.
 I'm making an identical twin, but it won't have the valve. Just in case anyone was interested?
Stoney

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