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burlesontom



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PostSubject: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-26, 18:14

I received my new purchase from the seller on GB today. This rifle is a 50 caliber made by Investarms. It looks for all the world to be a Cabelas Hawken. It has the same trademark patch box and all the same features. It is not marked Cabelas. Its not marked anything for any brand. Just the normal barrel markings.

I know Investarms has made this same gun for many different sellers. IIRC Charles Daly, Kassnar and a couple of others I fail to remember. Now to the part that makes this gun unique and why I bought it.

The seller listed it as having a 1/60 twist instead of the usual 1/48 twist. So I measured it and sure enough that seems to be correct. I makes almost 1/2 of a rotation in the 28" of barrel I can measure. This is the same as the Great Plains rifle everyone likes for a RB shooter. One thing the seller didn't catch was the barrel lands. I have 3 other Investarms rifles, a 54 Cabelas Hawken, A lyman GP rifle and a Lyman 50 caliber Trade rifle flint lock. All 3 of these guns have five land and groove barrels. This new gun has a 6 groove barrel.

So this gun should shoot RB loads just as well as my Lyman GP rifle and do it in a shorter, lighter package. And so far as I can tell this rifle has never been fired. If it was ever fired it wasn't much and it was cleaned very well. But I can find no blast marks on the bolster, nipple or hammer. And of course the barrel is perfectly clean. Any wild guesses or theories on who this gun was made for?
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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-26, 19:00

A picture would be fun.

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burlesontom



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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-26, 20:02

I may try to get one tomorrow. But if you have ever seen a Cabelas brand Hawken that’s what this gun looks like. Exactly.
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burlesontom



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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-26, 20:54

Here ya go. Easier than taking a picture here is the auction with several pictures.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/785592743
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Mofish



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Age : 74
Location : East of Dallas
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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-27, 00:21

Looks like you got what should be a good shooter ! I have one of those in .58 and it has served me well, never a problem with it. Yours sure looks to be in good condition.
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mushka



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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-27, 14:02

To tell you the truth, except for the barrel markings, it looks exactly like my TC 54 cal kit that I built back in the 80's.  I still have the gun, looks like yours.
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Kentucky Colonel

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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-27, 14:37

That looks in very good shape from here. 

There is another Cabelas rifle they sold as a Hawken. There is one here in classifieds. I believe that one is a carbine. I think it is made by Investarms. too.

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burlesontom



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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-27, 17:55

The Investarms guns were patterned after the TC Hawkens. Thats why they look alike.

That gun for sale Is a good deal for a gun fired just once. Especially if it still has the box and paperwork with it.

My mold cast balls that are around .492. Close enough. And I have patches in 3 thicknesses so I can adjust as needed. If it all works out and the stars align tonight I will go shooting tomorrow. I have this gun and my new Pedersoli Scout Carbine to try out. If it happens I will report it here.
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Hylander

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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-27, 22:55

Wow that looks great !

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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-28, 05:07

That's a very nice rifle.
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Hylander

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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-28, 09:47

I probably would have been bidding against you if I had saw it.

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T/C Hawken 50 Cal.
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burlesontom



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PostSubject: Re: New Gun Came Today   New Gun Came Today Empty2018-10-28, 11:08

Hylander I sort of wish you had of. I have bought 4 new BP rifles in the last 3 months or so and didn't really need another. But the 1/60 twist really got my attention and I had to have it. Only I and one other person even bid. And the seller started out at $300 for the gun and it cycled through several times before I clicked on it.

According to the Investarms date code this gun was made in 1985. For a gun that is 33 years old it is clean with just a couple of very minor dings in the wood.
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