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Hylander

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PostSubject: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 15th 2019, 6:40 pm

Received my 50 Hawken barrel back from Robert. 
Rebored to .54, 1:60, .012 grooves. 
First the good:
Bore looks great, shiney, good definition. 
Loads smooth and easy, I went to 12 loadings without swabbing, no problem.

Now the bad:
No accuracy yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 15th 2019, 6:41 pm

What load did you use? With the 1:60 twist, you may have to shoot it with a good dose of powder.
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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 15th 2019, 7:22 pm

I have been working away on my .40 Cal Re Bore from Hoyt, I have it really Close, But stil have Some Tinkering to do.

  To be BRUTALLY Honest, I wasn’t impressed with the Bore when i got it Back, ROUGH, VERY ROUGH, You can really see, and Feel the Tooling Marks (2 of us sent Barrels to him, and Both came back the Same) I guess that’s what you get for 120 Bucks? I have around 200 Strokes of Montana Extreme Bore Polishing Compound Through it, 0000 Steel Wool over a Tight fitting Patched Jag, About 2 Hrs and I’ve got it looking like a Mirror In there now. I personally would not have another one done by him, Unless it was a Smooth Bore. It’s to bad he doesn’t offer a Bore Lapping Service, or Farm it out to Someone else to do. I would Gladly pay Extra for a Nice Hand Lapped Bore

 As my Friend bubba.50 Says,  Thats my opinion and Yer Welcome to it :tup2
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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 16th 2019, 1:24 am

@FrontierGander wrote:
What load did you use? With the 1:60 twist, you may have to shoot it with a good dose of powder.

70 and 80gr. of 777FF
The 70 gr. with .020 patches did the best, I did get one 2" 3 shot group at 50yds.
.015 patches blew out, .020 and .022 look great and could be used again.

So after cleaning the bore, I can see tooling marks, so Looks like I will be lapping the bore.

Also I think I may pick up some Goex to try, sure wish someone around here sold Swiss.
I read that 777 has a short shelf life, wonder if that has anything to do with it ?

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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 16th 2019, 9:33 am

Yeah I'm not a t7 fan at all. Goes is much better.
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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 16th 2019, 10:40 am

Yep, quite often cut rifled bores are rough. i put a tight fitting piece of Scotch Brite on a jag, lube it with WD-40 and change as required: Usually takes about an hour. For polishing the bore i use jeweler's rouge.
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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 22nd 2019, 11:42 pm

A friend brought me over a pound of Schuetzen FF  Very Happy
I will give it a try next outing.

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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMarch 31st 2019, 3:25 pm

@Idaholewis wrote:
I have been working away on my .40 Cal Re Bore from Hoyt, I have it really Close, But stil have Some Tinkering to do.

  To be BRUTALLY Honest, I wasn’t impressed with the Bore when i got it Back, ROUGH, VERY ROUGH, You can really see, and Feel the Tooling Marks (2 of us sent Barrels to him, and Both came back the Same) I guess that’s what you get for 120 Bucks? I have around 200 Strokes of Montana Extreme Bore Polishing Compound Through it, 0000 Steel Wool over a Tight fitting Patched Jag, About 2 Hrs and I’ve got it looking like a Mirror In there now. I personally would not have another one done by him, Unless it was a Smooth Bore. It’s to bad he doesn’t offer a Bore Lapping Service, or Farm it out to Someone else to do. I would Gladly pay Extra for a Nice Hand Lapped Bore

 As my Friend bubba.50 Says,  Thats my opinion and Yer Welcome to it :tup2

This is why I have stopped having barrels rebored, its a hit and miss deal as these guys and their equipment get older.  To me its easier to buy a quality new barrel and replace the one in question.  I like to save old things and put them back in service if within reason, barrels have become an issue that you hear about more and more.  

Nice to see you haven't slowed down Lewis after banging you head on the wall a few time ......  scratch   affraid

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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyApril 9th 2019, 12:37 pm

Went to the range yesterday for a trip with the Black MZ and new lube mix.
Much better:
Accuracy got much better.
No blown or burnt patches and better consistency.
The MZ leaves very little residue and clean up is a breeze.
Also I did not have to swab between shots, loading pressure stayed the same

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PostSubject: Re: Hawken 54 rebore    Hawken 54 rebore  EmptyMay 3rd 2019, 1:02 pm

I to had my 50 rebored to 54 smooth, and I had to hand lap also. we will see how it works this weekend .
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