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Idaholewis

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PostSubject: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-08, 11:15

I am gearing up to start shooting long range Open Sight Sidelock Muzzleloader (and Scoped White Super 91 .451  Very Happy ) Anyway, my purpose for this morning’s Video was to See if my Little Camera would Pick up a 750 Yard 8” Steel Gong Hit? I am happy to say it will  :tup2  Muzzleloaders coming up next. 

I don’t like to shoot much Scope stuff, it’s WAY to easy for me to get use to them, and then it’s a REAL BOOGER on me to Transition back to my Open Sights. This stuff is NO CHALLENGE with a Scope, Open sights is where it’s at  :tup2

My Target is actually 760 Yards with my Leica Range Finder. If you look closely you can see the Vapor Trail from my Bullet.



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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-08, 14:39

What's your load in that .308? I shoot 168gr ballistic hornadys in my 308. Just have not been out past 200 yards yet. I have the nikon m308 4-16x42 scope with the BDC out to 800 yards.
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-08, 15:04

Well done vid Idaholewis  :tup2   The  popular .308 with a custom load is hard to beat. 
That gong sure brings back great memories.  We made our own gongs by melting lead into a 9" diameter ring 1 " deep.
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 04:57

@FrontierGander wrote:
What's your load in that .308? I shoot 168gr ballistic hornadys in my 308. Just have not been out past 200 yards yet. I have the nikon m308 4-16x42 scope with the BDC out to 800 yards.

Jonathan, That 168 Hornady BT would be IDEAL for this stuff, and the Nikon Scope the Same! :tup2 My Scope is nothing fancy, It is a Leupold VX2 4-12 With a CDS (Custom Elevation Dial) The Dial is actually engraved for my 6.5 Creedmoor with 120 Grain Nosler BT’s, But it lines up REALLY Close on this .308, The Above was my Handloads (All i shoot) 165 Grain Nosler BT’s (VERY VERY SIMILAR to what you are shooting) I am jumping my Bullets .025 to .030 Thou of the Lands (Rifling) This Rifle Shoots STELLAR this way, But the Bullet is seated so far Out of the Case that they won’t fit in the Magazine, So in other words it is a Single Shot the way i am Shooting it, i keep saying i am gonna play around with Seating Depth that fits in the Magazine, But this Thing shoots so Darn well that i HATE to mess with it Very Happy  I use Hodgdon Varget Powder in this Rifle, I swear by H-4350 in Just about everything EXCEPT .308

I have 2 Nikon Scopes, i would put Either of them up against this Leupold for Clarity ANY Ole Day! I am not knocking the Leupold, i have used them all of my life and SWEAR by them! But these Nikon’s are AWESOME Scopes for the Money :tup2 Both of mine are Just Regular Pro Staff’s, Nothing Fancy, But i like them a BUNCH!
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 05:13

The .308 is truly a Bad Ass little Cartridge, I use to be a DIE HARD Magnum Finatic, If it wasn’t a Magnum it wasn’t a Gun Very Happy That was my mentality for Years, I started playing around with a Few Smaller Calibers About 8-10 Years ago and finally seen the Light Light Bulb I actually Sold my Magnums. I can do ANYTHING with this .308 that I could do with my 7Mag, 300 Win Mag, And I can do so with Darn near 1/2 the Powder. Recoil from the .308 Makes it Pleasurable to Shoot, My 2 Favorite Cartridges are the 7MM-08 (.308 Case necked down to .284 7MM) and the .308, From Mice to Moose, they will do it ALL if you do your Part :tup2
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 09:29

say you have a 200 yard zero... How low at 750?
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 17:44

@FrontierGander wrote:
say you have a 200 yard zero... How low at 750?

My Velocity is 2,800 fps. My Zero is 200 Yards, that puts me about 1.2” high at 100 yards. At 750 Yards my bullet Drops Just under 12 Feet. When you look at the Bullet Vapor trail “Arch” in the Video, and take in to account the Target is 750 Yards away, You can see how it’s 12 Ft. It’s pretty darn amazing how fast these 165/168s get there, not much Hang time Very Happy 

 Here is a Comparison, Not Exact, But REALLY REALLY Close. Take the EXACT same 165 Grain Nosler BT bullet in a .300 Win Mag, Crank it up to 3,200 FPS, at 750 Yards it Drops 9 Feet.

What is the exact Hornady Bullet you are Shooting? Is it the ELD? I will make you up a Chart out to 800 Yards, it will get you REALLY REALLY Close, within a few inches :tup2

How is your 100 Yard accuracy with your Setup? If you can stay inside 1” at 100 Yards, 700-800 is DUCK Soup :tup2
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 19:20

I was always a HUGE fan of H4350 in my .30-06 with 165 grain Sierra Spitzer BT's.  IMR4350 also shot well...but I always gravitated to H4350.  Glad to see someone else using H4350 since all of my reloading buddies swore by IMR.
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 20:29

165gr soft point hornady boattail - 41.8gr H4895, 2,700 FPS.

168gr hornady boattail Ballistic point Amax, 42gr H4895 ( Haven't chronoed speed yet)

This is from a 20" AR10 barrel.

Under 1" is not a problem at 100 yards.
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 21:46

RangeVelocityEnergyTrajectoryCome Up (MOA)Come Up (MILS)Wind DriftWind Drift (MOA)Wind Drift (MILS)
027002719.0-1.50.00.0000
5026272574.00.8-1.6-0.5000
10025552436.01.9-1.8-0.5000
15024852303.01.7-1.1-0.3000
20024152176.00.00.00.0000
25023472055.0-3.11.20.3000
30022801939.0-7.92.50.7000
35022141828.0-14.33.91.1000
40021481722.0-22.55.41.6000
45020841621.0-32.56.92.0000
50020221524.0-44.68.52.5000
55019601433.0-58.810.23.0000
60018991345.0-75.212.03.5000
65018401263.0-94.113.84.0000
70017821184.0-115.515.84.6000
75017251110.0-139.717.85.2000
80016701040.0-166.819.95.8000
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 22:00

That is the 168 Grain Hornady AMax, I went with a 200 Yard Zero, 2,700 FPS, and an elevation of 7,000 Ft. The other Bullet will be right in here as well, REALLY REALLY close

Range on far left is Yards, Trajectory is in inches.
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 22:10

Here is Hornady’s Ballistic Calculator, It’s fun to Plug numbers in these, And again AMAZING how accurate this stuff is

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/


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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 22:27

Strike that Chart above, that is G1 Which is for flat Base bullets. Here is G7 which is where the Amax is

750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) BYuLkgf



RangeVelocityEnergyTrajectoryCome Up (MOA)Come Up (MILS)Wind DriftWind Drift (MOA)Wind Drift (MILS)
027002719.0-1.50.00.0000
5026642646.00.8-1.4-0.4000
10026272575.01.8-1.7-0.5000
15025922505.01.5-1.0-0.3000
20025562437.00.00.00.0000
25025212370.0-2.81.10.3000
30024862305.0-7.12.20.7000
35024512241.0-12.73.51.0000
40024162178.0-19.84.71.4000
45023822117.0-28.46.01.7000
50023482057.0-38.57.32.1000
55023141998.0-50.18.72.5000
60022811940.0-63.410.12.9000
65022481884.0-78.411.53.4000
70022151829.0-95.113.03.8000
75021821776.0-113.614.54.2000
80021491723.0-133.916.04.6000
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-05-09, 22:31

Actually it’s kinda cool to look between the 2 Charts above, G1 (Flat Base) Vs G7 (Boat Tail)
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PostSubject: Re: 750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test)   750 Yard .308 (Camera Zoom Test) Empty2019-08-06, 09:46

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This is an interesting post guys. I have shot .308 since the mid 1950's and still do so. An uncle was a sniper in Nam and just couldn't get the .308 out of his system, talked about the .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm NATO) all the time.

He did a comparison years ago with a .308 to a cartridge that uses the same parent case — the .260 Remington. With a 140-grain Accubond at 2,820 fps in a 10 mph full-value wind, the .260's shot will drift 86.5 inches at 1,000 yards. Bullet velocity being equal, the .308 drifts only about 9 inches further in the same wind. In Pennsylvania we always had wind in the mountain ranges.

He would shoot (testing) out to 300 yards for with the .308 Winchester. The 150-grain bullet would drop about 13 inches at 300 yards and a 180-grain bullet would drop 14 inches or more at the same distanceIt really drops fast after that. In my opinion, long range is anything past 400 yards.

Keep up testing, interesting.....

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