Frontier Muzzleloading
Welcome to Frontier Muzzleloading!

Please take the time to either Register or Log In to your user name and join us!


Muzzleloading Forum
 
HomeFAQRegisterLog in
Share
 

 Rifle to Rifle

Go down 
AuthorMessage
hunting savage



Number of posts : 170
Age : 72
Location : southern Mi
Registration date : 2014-05-03

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-05, 15:52

Say 50 calibers CVA inline to a CVA Hawkens  shooting a lee real bullet of say 250 gr with a charge of 100 gr with a 209 primmer. Now are both a 200 yard or 250 yard gun I believe they would be  what your say Slap fight
Back to top Go down
OldMtnMan

OldMtnMan

Male Number of posts : 10418
Age : 76
Location : Buena Vista, Colorado
Registration date : 2010-09-23

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-05, 16:03

No.

_________________
Pete

I'm addicted to black powder.
Back to top Go down
oneshot 1

oneshot 1

Number of posts : 619
Age : 65
Location : Missouri
Registration date : 2012-04-23

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-05, 16:05

No.

I was using 245Gr. XTP shot a Deer at 150 yards and that was pushing it.

oneshot
Back to top Go down
afishhunter

afishhunter

Male Number of posts : 16
Age : 64
Location : Idaho
Registration date : 2019-02-14

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-22, 18:05

209 won't fit standard sidelock nipple, not sure if the hammer will pop a 209; no firing pin or bump.
Back to top Go down
mark1945
Forum
Forum
mark1945

Male Number of posts : 228
Age : 74
Location : Portland Texas
Registration date : 2015-08-20

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-22, 19:37

There are several different brands of special nipples to let you shoot 209's in a sidelock . Pedersoli makes one that works great I have both my Pedersoli Kodiak double rifles converted to them . Have never had a failure to fire since converting to them .

_________________
CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
Back to top Go down
Firestick

Firestick

Male Number of posts : 111
Age : 62
Location : Wyoming
Registration date : 2019-02-18

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-22, 23:31

If the combo of YOU, THE RIFLE and THE LOAD can keep em all in the kill zone I suppose, yes. 200 yards is a long way with open sights and a brick of flying lead at low speed. I have no doubt it will penetrate and leave a good hole but I doubt the average hunter/rifle shot can do it on demand. ESPECIALLY in the FIELD.
Back to top Go down
Mofish



Number of posts : 88
Age : 74
Location : East of Dallas
Registration date : 2018-07-25

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-23, 04:38

Shooting with that recipe is not really a thing that should be done. Chances are even if you hit an animal, you will only wound it. Anything at that distance is just a crap shoot with a muzzleloader.
Back to top Go down
oneshot 1

oneshot 1

Number of posts : 619
Age : 65
Location : Missouri
Registration date : 2012-04-23

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-23, 08:42

The Deer I Shot at 150 yards was a good hit but he still got in a ditch I had to finish him off with a second shot.

I shot a Deer at long distance with.54Cal. Patch and Ball just before a rain. Just pure luck I found him. As matter fact I had given up and ate Lunch and spotted him just off the path to the Pickup.

oneshot
Back to top Go down
Sparkitoff



Number of posts : 222
Age : 72
Location : NC
Registration date : 2018-06-08

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-23, 08:48

One of the reasons many people take to traditional muzzleloaders is to put a little more "hunt" back in the quest for taking game. There is more work, preparation and skill required to get closer to animals. Typically, traditional muzzleloaders are used at closer ranges than centerfire or even in-line rifles due to trajectory, sighting equipment, functionality and of course the shooters capability. So while any rifle that will group tightly at a particular range can be effective, it may not be the "best" tool for the job. On the other hand it may be exactly what the owner needs to be satisfied. A friend used a Garand with the spec peep sights for deer hunting and would shoot out to 300-yards.  He was very accurate and didn't mind carrying the weight. He got a thrill out of every shot!  I would not be as excited with that rifle. There is a lot of individuality in choices.
Back to top Go down
hunting savage



Number of posts : 170
Age : 72
Location : southern Mi
Registration date : 2014-05-03

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-23, 16:06

MAG SPARK MAKES A 209 ACCURA SHOT MADE ONE FOR RIFLE PRIMMER
Back to top Go down
mark1945
Forum
Forum
mark1945

Male Number of posts : 228
Age : 74
Location : Portland Texas
Registration date : 2015-08-20

Rifle to Rifle  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Rifle to Rifle    Rifle to Rifle  Empty2019-07-23, 20:37

I have 2 of the rifle primers they were on my Navy Arms double barrel when I bought it . Who ever put them on it I dont think ever shot it they were the wrong threads and just wobbled around . I put one in one of my CVA's because it fit but soon took it off you cant get the primers out after shooting it very easy. The accura shot that takes 209 primers is much better you can pop the old ones right out .Thats what I put on my Navy Arms shotgun after The others were wrong thread .
 The Pedersolis also are easy to unload after shooting .

_________________
CVA 50 cal Mountain Rifle         Pedersoli Quigley 45/70          Pedratti  45/90  sharps                             
CVA 50 cal Mountain Pistol        Pedersoli Quigley 45/120        Lyman Great Plains 54 cal Flintlock
2 CVA 45 cal  Kentucky Rifles    Pedersoli Kodiak Safari 72 cal  Pietta 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Cabelas 58 cal Hawken             Colt Navy 36 cal                     Pietta 1863 Remington pocket rev 31 cal
Pedersoli Kodiak 58 cal             CVA 58 Cal. Mountain Rifle      Classic Arms Co 44 Cal New Orleans Ace
CVA 45 Cal Derringer               TC Renegade 54cal                 Navy Arms Co. Pietta 12 gauge double
Pedersoli 12 gauge double        Traditions Crockett 32 cal        2 Traditions Mountain Rifles 50 cal
Pietta 1851 Conf Navy 44
Back to top Go down
 
Rifle to Rifle
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Frontier Muzzleloading :: Muzzleloading Topic :: Traditional Muzzleloading-
Jump to: