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flteng



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PostSubject: Black powder vs substitute   October 14th 2013, 3:55 pm

I shoot a .54 TC Hawken with 3f black powder. I never hear the hammer drop it's instant boom. I am looking for a substitute that will ignite as fast as BP. BP is getting more expensive and harder to get so I am looking for a replacement.
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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   October 14th 2013, 5:08 pm

The closest will be Pyrodex, but it does have a slightly higher ignition temp. It will have less fouling, but it's also slightly more corrosive too.

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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   October 14th 2013, 5:24 pm

Pyrodex P or maybe even Triple 7 3f. If you can keep using the real stuff, keep at it! You will be happy with the results.
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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   October 14th 2013, 10:59 pm

Yes stick with real black for as long as you can , good stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   November 23rd 2013, 6:51 am

Just curious why you are using 3F in a .54 caliber?
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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   November 23rd 2013, 7:26 am

@lawdawg54 wrote:
Just curious why you are using 3F in a .54 caliber?
I do too.

More power than 2F

Less fouling than 2F

Ignites easier than 2F.

Flows better into breech channel that 2F.

If you use 10% less 3F to equal the power of 2F. It's cheaper to shoot.

If a lot of guns, it's more accurate. I've never seen it less accurate than 2F.

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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   November 23rd 2013, 8:32 am

I've always had good results with Black MZ but for best accuracy you may need to weigh the charges.
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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   December 7th 2013, 3:54 am

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I've always had good results with Black MZ but for best accuracy you may need to weigh the charges.

i like Black MZ powder too.  It is a very good and consistent powder, especially the weighed charges.    

Methinks Black MZ is an offshoot of the obsolete Goex Pinnacle.   With the fines sifted out, 3F Pinnacle  is about the most consistent powder i've ever used.  It works exceptionally well with a tight patched round ball.

This year i tried blackpowder: Tried some Grafs, Goex and some old Du Pont black powder i have on hand. Except for the Du Pont, the stuff was cruddy to the extreme. i simply refuse to swab after each shot, just won't do it. i will use no more blackpowder.

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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   December 7th 2013, 8:36 am

If someone doesn't want to swab at all between shots. BH 209 is the obvious choice. You'll pay more for that convenience, but it's the only choice.

I don't mind swabbing, and I use BH for other reasons in inlines.

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PostSubject: Re: Black powder vs substitute   December 7th 2013, 10:17 am

Swabbing is just part of the game ....Wink
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