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PostSubject: Winchester Primers?   November 3rd 2013, 2:25 pm

Will  W209 primers work well in an Optima with a western BH 209 breech plug....or am I going to be better off with CCI 209M?
Thanks, Dave
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 3rd 2013, 2:29 pm

Dave, they will work just fine. A bit harder to decarbon with the 1/8" drill bit as the w209 leaves a hard glass like crust behind in the breech plugs flash channel.
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 3rd 2013, 6:38 pm

Thanks Jon it seems that the CCI209M are the more popular choice but I have around a 1000 of the W209 so i'll use these till I can pic up some 209M, have you seen any big accuracy differences between the two?
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 3rd 2013, 7:14 pm

no difference in accuracy. I just dont like the harder fouling they leave in the flash channel.
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 3rd 2013, 8:07 pm

Thanks..appreciate the help!
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 4th 2013, 1:15 pm

ackleyfan, me too. Which calibers do have have?
I have a .257 Roberts Imp., 7x57 Imp., and a .338-06 Imp.  Love them all!

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 5th 2013, 2:04 pm

I use nothing but w209 in all my Knights, I also have all my Breech Plugs shimed so there is no blowby from the primer. All the flame goes straight to the powder.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 5th 2013, 6:33 pm

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ackleyfan, me too. Which calibers do have have?
I have a .257 Roberts Imp., 7x57 Imp., and a .338-06 Imp.  Love them all!
I use to have a 280AI but these days I mostly use a 300WM, but there alot of fun playing around with ...but still use it as my user name!
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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 3:08 am

@ackleyfan wrote:
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 I mostly use a 300WM
OUCH!  Evil or Very Mad   I'm a sissy when it comes to heavy recoil. (I'm assuming that 300WM means 300 Weatherby Magnum?)

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 8:32 am

Winchester Mag.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 10:10 am

A 300 Win Mag is not for the recoil sensitive either. At least not without a brake on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 10:26 am

I got rid of my 7mm Mag because of the recoil.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 10:37 am

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I got rid of my 7mm Mag because of the recoil.
A 280 AI will do everything a 7MM RM will do with less recoil.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 4:59 pm

So will my 7x57 AI.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 6:51 pm

@patocazador wrote:
So will my 7x57 AI.
That is true too. And it uses even less powder.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 7:27 pm

.270 is all you need.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 6th 2013, 7:37 pm

I use one of those because you can get ammo anywhere. 

I like the BC of the 6.5mm and 7mm bullets though. I will be adding one at some point.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 7th 2013, 3:42 am

I had a problem early on with 130 gr. .270 bullets not performing well. It turned me off .270 forever BUT I love the .280. Same thing really except for the 7mm bullet.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 7th 2013, 8:16 am

You had a 130gr Partition not perform? You used something else? Then you can't blame the caliber.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 8th 2013, 8:38 am

Factory loaded ammo with W/W 130 gr. bullets. I didn't reload back then.

Nosler Partitions will turn any caliber into a killing machine; I love them. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 8th 2013, 9:29 am

Did your early gun have an insufficient twist rate or something? Did you try different 130 grain bullets? Did you try 150s or other weight bullet?

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 8th 2013, 10:49 am

I tried a sure-fire solution. I traded it for a .280 (called 7mm Express at the time). 7mm gives many more bullet options.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 8th 2013, 5:59 pm

So you gave up on it quickly. Something wasn't right because 130s are probably the second most common 270 round behind 150s. My TC Venture shoots sub MOA with 130 and 150 Federals.

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PostSubject: Re: Winchester Primers?   November 8th 2013, 6:00 pm

Good choice on the replacement. I believe I will own a 280 someday. Not much to dislike about that round other than availability.

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