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PostSubject: New old renegade   November 24th 2013, 1:10 pm

My slightly customized renegade with brand new Green Mountain LRH .54 cal barrel.
I am so excited to get out and shoot her again! 
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 24th 2013, 1:39 pm

Does your wife make you keep it in the basement? Razz 

Let us know what she shoots like now .. the Renegade, not your wife.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 24th 2013, 5:17 pm

No, she keeps me in the basement and the guns upstairs in the bedroom.   
She shoots better than I can.. both the wife and the renegade. Shooter 
I will have her out before the MN muzzleloader season starts and that is next weekend.
I did order the Pedersoli 209 primer adapter today and it should arrive this week.
I love the BP for my round ball rifle but I want to give the BH209 a try in this barrel.
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 27th 2013, 12:53 pm

So I got the 209 adapter in the mail today. The first thing I notice it so tall the half cock can't be used.  I can see this as a safety issue.  Then the travel distance of the hammer is considerably shorter.  I might buy another hammer and file down the striker face to see if that changes anything.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 27th 2013, 1:03 pm

Looking very sexy Archie ! There is just something alluring about side locks....
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 27th 2013, 1:03 pm

Shorter throw is good. Faster lock time.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 27th 2013, 1:13 pm

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So I got the 209 adapter in the mail today. The first thing I notice it so tall the half cock can't be used.  I can see this as a safety issue.  Then the travel distance of the hammer is considerably shorter.  I might buy another hammer and file down the striker face to see if that changes anything.
I place a .45 auto empty case over the loaded device and lower the hammer down on it. It precludes the accidental firing of the gun. Since I have double set triggers and always set the trigger before firing, I just remove the .45 auto case when taking the shot.

Of course, this would be cumbersome if stalk hunting but I hunt from a stand.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 8:24 am

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I place a .45 auto empty case over the loaded device and lower the hammer down on it. It precludes the accidental firing of the gun. Since I have double set triggers and always set the trigger before firing, I just remove the .45 auto case when taking the shot.
I like this idea, Safety first and then I get to go home with all my parts.  Thank You!!

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Shorter throw is good. Faster lock time.
That aspect had not entered my mind.  I need all the help I can get in the accuracy department.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 8:37 am

Don't we all need that help Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 8:40 am

Heck yeah! Great set up there, especially with the 54cal, thats one of my most favorite cals for a traditional sidelock.
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 12:20 pm

I am very partial to the .54 myself Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 10:02 pm

Just in case your wondering how this project came about.
one of my renegade stocks was cracked so I built something different
Just a bit of cut and paste

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 10:13 pm

lol thats pretty sweet!
Will the stock basically be one piece now or can you still split it apart?
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 10:16 pm

Hey, how much does that rifle weigh anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 10:42 pm

The acraglass made it permanent and I had to add in another underlug to the barrel for the wedge pin.
I took that off an older GM barrel with a rotten bore.
she weighs in at a tad over 8.5 lbs.
The old girl behind her comes in at about 11.24 lbs with the sling and extra cartridges.
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 10:56 pm

not bad at all.

Get some info on that other one with pics! Thats one beefy rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 28th 2013, 11:01 pm

I'd love to get my hands on one of them Trapdoor rifles but they're rather scarce in my neck of the woods !

Very beautiful specimen you've got there !
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 8:51 am

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I'd love to get my hands on one of them Trapdoor rifles but they're rather scarce in my neck of the woods !
They're real scarce here too .. in shootable condition.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 9:14 am

You guys see any shootable paper cartridge Sharps rifles ?
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 9:44 am

Original guns are around but good ones are expensive.  Finding a donor rifle is actually more difficult.  If you want to spend the money anything is possible. 

I would like you all to meet Clara. I love you 


She was my grandfathers rifle, 1884 Springfield trapdoor. I Rebarreled her with a .458" tapered octagon and whittled the stock out of a 4"x8"x50" walnut board.  Installed a pewter nosecap and buffalo horn buttplate.  Renegade trigger and sights with a Hawken style trigger guard I got from ToW,  http://www.trackofthewolf.com/.

Go to this site http://trapdoors.com/ and you will find everything you need to build an action from parts.  A competent gunsmith with a lathe can thread a barrel on it for you. 
The fellas over at Treebone offer a trapdoor sporter stock http://www.treebonecarving.com/  Then all ya need is triggers and sights.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 10:05 am

Really snazzy ! I love the old bp cartridge guns.
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 8:11 pm

Spitfire, I don't that I could identify a paper cartridge gun if I saw one.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 29th 2013, 9:45 pm

We have only the Westley Richards Monkey tail here that uses the paper cartridge and they are also getting scarce now , but what a blast to make ammo and shooting it !
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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 30th 2013, 6:14 am

I don't know much about them guns.  Sort of a combination muzzle/breech loader? Isn't that rifle a product of the Boer wars with the Dutch and English? Sorry if I got that all wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: New old renegade   November 30th 2013, 7:47 am

Yes it was one of the last cross-over rifles before brass cartridges came into vogue.

The Boer forces liked it because it could be used as a muzzleloader once you've used up all your ammo.

Last time it was actively used in war by the Boers was at the battle of Amajuba , the English forces was all equipped with the .303 Lee rifle by this time but still got their butts kicked.
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