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PostSubject: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 8:11 am

Not sure just go in from hunting... Had a nice buck 100 yards in front of me. Pulled trigger, Pop and flash and looked like a ball of flame landed 50ft in front of me. I am not sure but I think I had a misfire or it only half way fired. "Buck gone". I checked to even make sure if the bullet  was still in there but it was not. So I am not sure if anyone has had this happen. I am shooting a CVA wolf 50 CAL with triple seven. Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 8:25 am

Maybe your powder got contaminated somehow ?
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 8:44 am

Sounds like oil in the breech plug and barrel contaminated the powder.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 9:22 am

Does sound like powder was not dry for what-ever reason. Some deer just wake up with a horseshoe over their head, I've encountered a few.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 9:38 am

Did'nt we all ? When I first started out there was no forums to go to if I had problems , and most people thought I was nuts for shooting black powder . So I learned the hard way !
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 9:46 am

When I started hunting TV's had just come out. The word computer hadn't even been thought of yet. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 9:51 am

Same here Pete , we heard the FBI or CIA had a computer that filled a whole building
 but never saw one .
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 10:29 am

There are so many things that went wrong in hunting situations when I started using muzzleloaders in the late 70s that I couldn't even think of them all. Mostly it was caps popping and the main charge not igniting. I finally realized it was due to using oil in the barrel after cleaning. At that time I didn't dry swab or fire a cap or two on an empty gun before loading.

We got a TV in 1954 so I could watch Hopalong Cassidy, finally.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 11:02 am

Here in dark Africa we got TV in 1972 , and the damned thing only went on air at 5pm and off air at around 10 or 11 pm !
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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 11:13 am

It was that way in '82 when I was there. Two stations. One alternated between English and Afrikaans programing; the other was different tribes playing stupid "Beat the Clock" type games.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 11:19 am

Not much to watch in the 50's. Unless you liked Howdy Doody.



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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 11:38 am

A few years back I had that happen with my T/C Encore using Triple Seven pellets.  We actually could see the bullet shoot out of the barrel.  It landed about 15 feet out.  I never did figure out what actually happened.  I suspect that not enough flame reached the pellets?????
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  - The breech plug had some Bore Butter clogging up the flash hole. 
  - I cracked the first Triple Seven pellet that seated against the breech plug.
  - I didn't seat the bullet tight against the Triple Seven pellets.

Since then, I always make sure my breech plug is absolutely spotless AND I "always" fire off TWO 209 primers before I load up for the hunt.  In fact, I have two breech plugs, one for the range and one "only" for hunting.  Maybe over kill, but, I don't have too many bucks step out in front of me.  When one does I don't want a failure.

I have had two failures using BH209 with my CVA MR.  I didn't pay attention the first time out and was in a hurry to get to the range.  I forgot to change out the "standard" BP in the barrel with the BH209 BP.  I had two bullets land 5 feet in front of the shooting bench.  I picked them up and re-used them when I corrected the BP snafu. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 11:43 am

The only time that happen to me was trying to shoot some Thors that were too loose of a fit. The primer fired, and the Thor just went 10 ft. Pretty embarrassing at the range. Although it did look funny, and I was laughing too.

BH 209 needs some compression to fire. Make sure your bullets fit tight.

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 12:39 pm

I had the bullet barely come out of a cap & ball revolver's cylinder when I forgot to put in a powder charge. I was using small rifle primers and it sent the bullet into the barrel but it didn't exit. Luckily, I did a thorough inspection before firing off another round. I hate to think what the result would have been otherwise. affraid

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PostSubject: Re: CVA Misfire   November 27th 2013, 1:12 pm

Only time I had a gun not fire with authority was when I fired it with home made powder , it just gave a whoosh with lots of smoke and also send the ball down range about 15 feet.

Needless to say I scrapped the idea of making my own sub.
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