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PostSubject: What powder? POLL   December 21st 2013, 11:20 pm

Say you have a gun store by you that has EVERY kind of black powder you could ask for. Using the options available, what do you choose?
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 4:31 am

pellets i prefer the 777 but only one of my guns likes them
so i swapped to 50/30 pyrodex which has never hangfired in either of my rifles
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 6:33 am

Depends on the gun i'm buying it for.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 7:16 am

Totally depends on the rifle. Sidelocks and Flintlocks I like Swiss Blackpowder. Also, my Whites.  My 209 inlines I like Blackhorn209. I like T7 in my older Knights. (T7 is easy to get.) If I had to pick one it would be Swiss.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 7:47 am

I only have inlines and after reading several topics about blackhorn 209 on this forum i decided to try it. Love the stuff, i dont see any reason to change.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 7:49 am

Well, since I am Fairly new to muzzys (2yrs)   I tried the white pellets and I was not aware of the crude ring and what caused it. A fellow in-line shooter at the range let me try BH209 so after a good cleaning I tried BH209 5 loads later no crud. BH209 from then till now and into the future..I have used it on an elk hunt so far.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 7:54 am

In three guns I use BH 209. In one I have to use 777. I chose BH 209 since that is what I use the most of.

Really you need to break the guns down into categories and then give the same choices.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 7:57 am

BH209 only! If I ever go back to a side lock, I'll consider other powders should the need arise.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 8:15 am

For inlines it's BH 209.

For sidelocks it's Goex, unless you don't mind spending the money for Swiss.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 8:33 am

All my guns including half my cartridge guns eat blackpowder.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 10:12 am

Very Happy 

In lines go with BLACK HORN 209 and my side locks I shoot GOEX  cheers  cheers 

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 10:28 am

i sometimes use Black MZ powder or black powder.  IMO:  The modern black powder i've used is the cruddiest stuff ever made.  My 40 year old Du Pont black powder is much cleaner.  

My favorite powder is Goex Pinnacle:  It's no longer produced.   What me worry - not!!!  i have oodles of the stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 22nd 2013, 11:23 am

My newer in lines I use blackhorn 209 my older in lines and my traditional muzzle-loaders I use Goex. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 8:19 pm

I just tried Alliant Black MZ in my Renagade and it shot 1.5" groups at 50 yards with open sights. There was no dirt in the barrel but did have some flash in the pan mis-fires. I was playing with less powder in the pan, so it could have been that? I could go back to BP but was wondering if there is anything cleaner?

I had been using 120gr of RS in my TC inline with good groups at 100, but the crud was too nasty and I have been reading how corrosive it is. From what i have read, if i want to use MZ it in my in-line, i should weigh the charges?
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 8:32 pm

The only reliable powder for a flinter is BP.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 8:38 pm

In-line=Blackhorn 209
Side-lock=Goex

Just seems to work good for me! I tried a lot of trial and error, but settle on the above listed powders. 

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 8:57 pm

thanks guys.
I am in central PA, do you think i will be able to find BH209 for my in-line any where? i have looked a little and they say i will have to order it and have it shipped.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 9:03 pm

It's getting more popular, so you never know where you might find it.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 9:29 pm

See it everywhere we go in Bama. 

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 27th 2015, 10:00 pm

@dagraybill wrote:
I just tried Alliant Black MZ in my Renagade and it shot 1.5" groups at 50 yards with open sights. There was no dirt in the barrel but did have some flash in the pan mis-fires. I was playing with less powder in the pan, so it could have been that? I could go back to BP but was wondering if there is anything cleaner?

I had been using 120gr of RS in my TC inline with good groups at 100, but the crud was too nasty and I have been reading how corrosive it is. From what i have read, if i want to use MZ it in my in-line, i should weigh the charges?

What model is your TC inline?

As for the flinter, Goex or Olde Eynesford will be best. I've actually had good luck with that American Pioneer powder (Alliant Black MZ is the same stuff) in my flinter, but I always use 4fg Goex in the pan for best results when the flint drops.

Are you using round ball in that flinter? If so, take a look at your lube.

Pyrodex isn't as bad as they make it out to be. All these powders will rot the bore if the shooter just puts the gun in the corner and leaves it. They all need a good cleaning after you are finished shooting.

Welcome to the forum as well!

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 28th 2015, 12:48 am

thanks all.

Jon, I think it is an Encore. it has the drop down hammer/trigger and laminated thumbhole stock; i put a Nikon BDC muzzle-loader scope on it. i love the gun. last year i drilled a whitetail through the heart at 267 yards, then got a coyote running through the woods later the same day. i was starting to feel like Davy Crockett. : )

yes, i use a round ball in the Renegade. it is the older barrel with the slower(?) round ball twist. i wish i could get a barrel that i could shoot sabots, but this kills deer with round balls (as long as i practice to get used to the set trigger : ). i was told they no longer make barrels for it? i hope i can get the MZ to ignite reliably. is it better or about the same as the BH209 as far as ignition?
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 28th 2015, 6:58 am

Pyrodex is bad Jon. Besides being more corrosive than any other sub, and black powder. It's not as accurate either.

Nobody uses it in target competition.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 28th 2015, 8:42 am

I use Pyrodex RS & P for fun shoots in side locks, revolvers, and pistols during warm weather, only because I have almost 20#. It may loose strength once open but is fine for plinking as I found one that had been opened for years.

For hunting and cold weather shooting I use GOEX.
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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 28th 2015, 9:21 am

I use Goex for all but one gun, I use BH209 in it.

Jon wrote: "Pyrodex isn't as bad as they make it out to be."

Yes it is, Jon.

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PostSubject: Re: What powder? POLL   December 28th 2015, 11:47 am

Oh bull. How many rotten barrels do you guys own that you bought brand new and are damaged from pyrodex? And be honest, if they are damaged, someone didnt do a good job of cleaning. I know all of our guns has fired a LOT of pyrodex over the past 15 years and guess what? Those bores are still in solid shape.

Not as accurate?  :ROFL you really think you can slip that one by me Petey?

I dont really care who uses what in competition because it really doesnt matter. Its target shooting and that normally translates into stuff thats not used in the field.

Do you see guys in the field shooting their bows at deer with 3 foot long stabilizers? Very Happy Very Happy


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