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PostSubject: new to muzzleloading   January 4th 2014, 10:48 pm

So after sometime going back and forth from rifles to archery I want to switch to the best of both worlds. I don't own a muzzleloader yet but thats the first part of the adventure. A little background on my self... I'm a diehard spot and stalk hunter chasing everything from javalina, coues deer, mule deer, black bears and elk. My first question is where do I begin... I have heard great things about cva and t/c but don't know where to start. Thanks in advance. Daniel
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 4th 2014, 11:01 pm

Welcome Daniel , you will find answers to most all of your questions here.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 6:25 am

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 Glad you can join the group. cheers  Where to begin is a good, if not great question.
I would do some research on the different ml'ers and get to a shop or store that has some in stock and try a few on. See how they fit and see how they operate. From there you could get your rifle. Contact Carlos at the ED'S GUN SHOP. He's helped a lot of the members here get started. Before you do that, check at the store to see what fits you first and then contact him as to what you want. He has scopes and everything you need. He's know his stuff. He's not one for stirring you wrong when it comes to equipment.
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Check out the forum and you'll find his name and the members he's helped. He goes by.."cvilorio"

Dan go to the section ED'S GUN STORE and check it out.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 8:34 am

Once you decide on your rifle of choice, call Carlos. He's done right by me on every purchase.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 8:42 am

Think he's done right by most everybody on this forum.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 11:34 am

Welcome!!

First off, read up on your state runs for minimum caliber for elk, ect. Read up on what projectiles are legal, what primers are allowed and we can go from there.

If 209 primers are legal, I'd suggest an CVA Accura V2, Traditions Strikerfire or a Traditions LDR. These are a few of my favorite inlines and are the upper ends for those 2 companies.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 12:47 pm

As far as I have read for arizona pretty much everything is legal... I'm gonna take a good hard look at the accura, I have read good reviews all over for cva. The next question is the debate between loose powder vs pellets and then also projectile, whether the sabot is the way to go or powerbelt.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 12:57 pm

Loose powder is the way to go. BH 209 is the best powder. Lots of choices for sabots. The Barnes and PT Gold are both good.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 1:14 pm

yep, no question about it! Blackhorn209 all the way.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 1:41 pm

How do y'all feel about the accura mr.... looks amazing and It fits my specs for a lighter rifle
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 1:45 pm

That's what I have. You'll love it.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 8:34 pm

wolf also is great. Along with H&R Huntsman
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 5th 2014, 9:59 pm

Just be aware of the chipping issues with the MR's finish. Its an awesome rifle for handling but the major issues they've had were the finish peeling/chipping off the barrel and frames. If it were my money, the thumbhole Accura V2 is my rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 6:13 am

The MR is a great, lighter weight gun that shoots really well. Some have had issues with the finish chipping on the barreL & near the breech. CVA is schedules to release a new Nitride finish that is supposed to cure the chipping & also a new stainless steel model. Carlos is going to the first SHOT show on Wed & may be able to get you more info. 
Jon really likes his Strikerfire but I've read so many negative claims about Traditions customer service that I'm still a bit nervous about a Traditions, but you never know. They could be perfect for you if you ever need them. I have yet to deal with any gun company that is great 100% of the time.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 9:09 am

CVA told me the new Nitide guns wouldn't come out until next fall.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 10:39 am

Muley wrote:
CVA told me the new Nitide guns wouldn't come out until next fall.

I wonder if the bare stainless will come out sooner?

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LUEPOLD 4-12X50 VX-R CDS, FIRE DOT, WIND PLEX

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 10:46 am

My info came from whoever answers the phone. It may not be reliable.

I wish they could offer the SS finish to those guns that are chipping. Just blast off the finish instead of swapping for another coated gun that will chip.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 11:08 am

Can you not have it blasted off yourself Pete , Maybe like fine glass bead blasting ?
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 11:18 am

Yes, I can, but getting it done for free by CVA is better. It's not just the barrel. It's the receiver too. I think it would have to be disassembled, and that's not easy on a CVA.

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 6th 2014, 11:31 am

Clever !
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 16th 2014, 10:20 pm

Works been busy so I have not been able to check back in. How about a scope to top it off... my main hunting is between New Mexico and arizona so I can have a scope. I'm lookin to shoot 200 yards max so I'm just wondering what everyone is setup with. I'll be going to cabelas's in a few weeks to check out the two cva that I listed. Thank you again.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 17th 2014, 6:15 am

Daniel Bybee wrote:
Works been busy so I have not been able to check back in. How about a scope to top it off... my main hunting is between New Mexico and arizona so I can have a scope. I'm lookin to shoot 200 yards max so I'm just wondering what everyone is setup with. I'll be going to cabelas's in a few weeks to check out the two cva that I listed. Thank you again.

It really depends what you want to spend on a scope. Here are a few that I would recommend & as with everything else I would get it from Carlos.

Bushnell Trophy XLT DOA250
Vortex Crossfire
Redfield Revenge Sabot M/L
Redfield Revolution Accurange
Zeiss Conquest
Vortex Viper
Leupold VX-R Firedot 30mm

If money is not a factor, the Leupold is a fantastic scope!

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LUEPOLD 4-12X50 VX-R CDS, FIRE DOT, WIND PLEX

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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 17th 2014, 11:06 am

Welcome aboard, you've come to the right place for good advice. I have a Traditions LDR and really like it. I think any break action is the right way to go it will be a personal preference on fit and feel and cost. I think all of the newer muzzleloaders are accurate and easy to work with. I also like the Barnes and PT Golds for the projectile and Blackhorn 209 for the powder. 
I have a Bushnell DOA 250 and it is good for the money, like GregK said though the higher end scopes are better but I can't justify putting a scope that costs more than the gun by almost double. 
Like the others have said a call to Ed's gun shop and talking to Carlos is a must before buying. He tests and uses a lot of equipment and has great prices especially for everything you will need.       I know for a fact he will have better prices than Cabelas.
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 17th 2014, 5:28 pm

I am new also, great people here to help you. Just talked to Carlos today he is the Best. Great person
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PostSubject: Re: new to muzzleloading   January 17th 2014, 6:15 pm

ld7009 wrote:
I am new also, great people here to help you. Just talked to Carlos today he is the Best. Great person

Always great to have new members :)Glad to hear that you talked with Carlos. You won't find anyone better....PERIOD!

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LUEPOLD 4-12X50 VX-R CDS, FIRE DOT, WIND PLEX

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