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PostSubject: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 4:34 pm

Well the season is pretty much over for me. I was successful on Saturday and the wind chill is -25 here today and tomorrow with 25-30 mph wind gusts so I thought I would clean the gun up since I am not going out. Here is a picture of the inside of the barrel towards the breech end of course. What powder did I use? I'm bored so I figured I would come up with some sort of "game" I guess. A little background on this: The gun was shot a little over a week ago at the range and was not cleaned. Muzzleloader season started two days ago. I had 3 deer come by, I shot 3 times and killed two of them, on the third shot I noticed some resistance right at the breech area and had to give it some extra effort to get the bullet seated. I loaded up a forth time in which the same thing happened and when I got home I took the breechplug out to empty the load. With my Knight Range rod I could not get the bullet out but had to pound it out with a hammer and the Knight Range rod. The picture you see is only one side of the inside of the barrel, it looked like this all the way around the barrel in the breech area in that spot and some further back. Oh and this picture is after taking three or four patches of hoppes elite through the barrel with a couple dry patches. I had a hard time with the getting great pictures of the entire area but this one "should" give you an idea. What was the powder?


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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 5:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 5:38 pm

I thought you used BH?

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 5:50 pm

I'm going to let this go for a little bit to give more people on the forum a chance to put their guess in and then I will state what was used.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 5:58 pm

It would have been a bit easier if you hadn't swabbed.

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 6:09 pm

This wasn't supposed to be easy. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 6:15 pm

I will also say again that the picture does not do quite portray how much of the "crud ring" or whatever you want to call that is there and that there was resistance to seating the bullet as well as having to pound one out with a hammer. Lol. That should narrow it down right?
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 6:27 pm

bh209 leaves a little crud like that in my traditions barrel, A brush normally knocks it right now. I suspect maybe a bit of a rough spot or possibly residue that would cause more build up there.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 9:41 pm

Our hunting season is still going on. I will play games in March when it's over.  Shooter

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 9:45 pm

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Our hunting season is still going on. I will play games in March when it's over.  Shooter

What a lousy guess.  clown 

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:02 pm

Haha no kidding. Took more time and space to make that post then it would to just name a powder.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:06 pm

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bh209 leaves a little crud like that in my traditions barrel, A brush normally knocks it right now. I suspect maybe a bit of a rough spot or possibly residue that would cause more build up there.


I'm assuming your guess is BH209 then? I will say that this barrel was polished with JB after I bought it and has been cleaned thoroughly afterwards and that all of course was done before I even shot the gun at the range. The crud ring really is not little but that was the only part I could get with my camera. I had some resistance loading the last couple shots and had to physically pound the last bullet out with a hammer. I could of shot it out but not where I live. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:10 pm

I would have guessed T7, but you've never mentioned using that powder. I was also going to guess smokeless, but I don't know that you have one anymore.

I've never had that with BH. Even after 50 shots with no swabbing.

Beats me?

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:18 pm

Yeah it's BH209. The gun is an Optima V2. Load was 110 grains of BH209, Hornady XTP 300 grain, and W209 primer. Part of the reason for leaving it open for guesses at first is because I was/am pretty shocked of it. I have been through several jugs of BH209 through several different guns and have never experienced anything like this. I too have shot upwards around 50 shots in a row before without any resistance or anything like this. In fact I have shot a bunch at the range and then left it loaded for close to a month and went hunting firing off a few shots during the gun week with no issues. I will definitely be doing some experimenting to try to figure out what is going on but I certainly won't be paying what I pay for this powder if I continue to get these results. Other then when I had a smokeless gun I have pretty much always used BH209 because of the opposite results that I have got but this one is new on me.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:27 pm

That's a weird one. No idea what would cause that. At first I was going to say sabots might have something to do with it, but everybody shoots sabots with no crud ring.

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:40 pm

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Haha no kidding. Took more time and space to make that post then it would to just name a powder.

I understand that you like being Alex Trebek more than getting cold out in the woods.  Twisted Evil 

My guess is the corrosion-maker, Pyrodex.

See, I can guess and go hunting.  lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 10:43 pm

See, you thought you were too old to multi task.

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 11:21 pm

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ericcosh wrote:
Haha no kidding. Took more time and space to make that post then it would to just name a powder.

I understand that you like being Alex Trebek more than getting cold out in the woods.  Twisted Evil 

My guess is the corrosion-maker, Pyrodex.

See, I can guess and go hunting.  lol!


Well...umm...that's a good guess and I am glad to see your making some progress but you did fail to read the very few posts between your previous post and your latest. Sorry about that but if you had done so you would see the answer has already been provided and it was not what you guessed. If I owned a television and knew what Alex Trebek says when someone gets the wrong answer this is where I would say that. Maybe next time?
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 11:27 pm

Who won the buckskin chaps?

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 11:35 pm

Theoretically nobody actually guessed BH209.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 6th 2014, 11:47 pm

I sort of did in my first post. Just like you sort of guessed the question in my contest.

So, we're even on the chaps.

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 8th 2014, 1:06 pm

Did it clean out ok?
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 8th 2014, 1:47 pm

Yes I was able to get it out with a wire bore brush and some effort after soaking the barrel with cleaner. Have never had anything like that happen with BH209.
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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 8th 2014, 4:48 pm

Have you contacted Western Powders to get their opinion?

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PostSubject: Re: Name the powder used.    January 8th 2014, 5:06 pm

No I have not.
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