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PostSubject: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 6:46 pm

Hi All, I just got my new cva buckhorn today!! Here in Calif. they passed some new laws about lead free hunting in the whole state by 2016. So I bought this rifle to hunt with and shoot. I like it because the breech plugs can be change when I go to OR, WA, or ID for hunting. I am going to have to use the Thor bullets to hunt with and would like some help with starting load data with the Thor and some powder choices. I have BH209, Swiss 1 1/2,& pyrodex, I have to use the Thor because of the soild copper and not being sabot. The rules also say no sabots which make it a challenge. Any help would be great. Thanks Bill
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 6:53 pm

blackhorn209 is not recommended in that rifle due to the plunger system, but t7, pyrodex, goex, american pioneer, all good stuff to try out. Especially that swiss!

Order a thor sizing sample, most new cva's take the .500" thor but its best to order the free sizing sample and see exactly what size it takes for sure. No sabots? hmm californias just getting flat out weirder.

Make sure you get that sizing sample, it will make things a lot easier.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 7:11 pm

Yea, I know I was the one asking the non lead ball question also. The law say no sabots and no pellets for powder also. Go figure.  Can you please tell me why I can't use the BH209? That's the bigger bummer.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 7:48 pm

wrong breech plug design for it for one, second is that the open plunger style can actually cause the primer itself to turn into a projectile and launch itself into the shooters face. Forum member cayugad tried it in his TC black diamond? its pretty much the same operating system as the cva, and he had to pry the primer out of his forehead. Its not face to shoot bh209 in this style of rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 7:57 pm

ok 10-4, what of the other powders that I have would you prefer the Swiss 1 1/2 or Pyrodex and what starting point with the Thor bullets? Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 8:12 pm

Swiss, ignites easy, easy fouling, powerful and consistent. 90gr and go up to 110 grains.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 8:40 pm

Ok Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 8:56 pm

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I am going to have to use the Thor bullets to hunt with and would like some help with starting load data with the Thor and some powder choices.

You don't have to use Thor bullets in CA.   You can use the Barnes XPB .430 and .451 bullets in sabots.   The 225 grain .430 Barnes XPB bullet knocks the snot out of deer and big hogs.  

http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/components/pistol/
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 13th 2014, 10:06 pm

Hi Falcon, The reg's state that here in Calif. sabot are prohibited. That's why I need to pray Thor's work.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 8:37 am

Looks to me they want to make it so you cannot or do not want to hunt in Calif.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 9:37 am

Yea, Spitfire not like it use to be, That's for sure
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 11:19 am

How much is the fine?  Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 11:25 am

Good question. I don't know, the only problem with that is you could go a head with lead but you know game wardens it opens the door for them to take everything. Not worth it specially here in the left coast.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 11:46 am

I was thinking go with a copper bullet but take the hit on the sabot if you got caught.  Very Happy Man I couldn't live there. Hopefully the Thor's will work out for you.
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 11:51 am

they thought they had ML hunters caught like a deer in headlights, thats were thors come into play and give them back the middle finger  lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: CVA BUCKHORN   January 14th 2014, 12:09 pm

Laughing  Laughing An I think they don't like that middle finger !
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