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PostSubject: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 13th 2014, 4:17 pm

Was bored today, too muddy to get out and do anything so decided to try a project... my Renegade has a crap barrel, when I bought it it was all rusted/pitted so I cleaned it up as good as possible and it now shoots roundballs decent and 240/300 gr. xtps excellent..anyway since the barrel has no real value and Ive been wanting a carbine sidelock to treestand hunt, so it lost 7 in. off the barrel today, its now 19 in. for total length of 35.5 in..
.the gun feels 10 times better then it did before, carrys easier points alot better and lighter to boot..the barrel was crowned with a 84 deg. single flute countersink, the mark on the end of the barrel is a saw blade mark that I didnt take all the way out as it was still there when barrel showed square so I left it..
put a replacement Knight fiberoptic front sight on it, 5 min.JB Weld is a great thing:) Supposed to be 60 deg. tomorrow so going to take it out and shoot it and see how it does, its also already tapped for a scope rail/mounts so may put a little 4x scope on it, have to see how I like shooting the open
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 13th 2014, 5:27 pm

Cool .  Let us know how that shorter barrel does on the range.
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 14th 2014, 4:24 am

If the crowning job is ok she'll still be accurate .....wonder how much velocity you'll lose ?
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 14th 2014, 2:41 pm

Well with the same load I was shooting before I cut the barrel, 240gr. xtp w/green sabot and 85 gr. pyrodex rs its now shooting about 3.5 in. at 45 yds, it was shooting 2.5-3 in. before at 50 before cutting barrel..It could be my eyes to because with the fiberoptic sight it blurs out the bull plus my 52 yr old eyes dont focus worth a crap anymore..Someone with good eyes it would shoot alot better, going to get a scope rail and mount a scope later on and experiment with some more loads... might try some roundball loads tomorrow and see how it does..
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 14th 2014, 2:45 pm

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If the crowning job is ok she'll still be accurate .....wonder how much velocity you'll lose ?
Im guessing 80-100 fps, should of ran it across the chrony before I chopped it...will run some next time I shootit..
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 14th 2014, 2:53 pm

could be quite a bit less velocity then you think. I had a 30" barrel and it only gained 60ish FPS more than my 27" barrel.

Looks real good though! I bet that dropped a great deal of weight off the nose of that rifle, makes for quick aiming too.

Even try a ghost ring or peep sight? May be something to look into.
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 14th 2014, 8:26 pm

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could be quite a bit less velocity then you think. I had a 30" barrel and it only gained 60ish FPS more than my 27" barrel.

Looks real good though! I bet that dropped a great deal of weight off the nose of that rifle, makes for quick aiming too.

Even try a ghost ring or peep sight? May be something to look into.

Jon, yeah thought about a peep but Ive got a little Leupold 3x M-8 scope with a dot reticle that is just as quick on target and picks up more light...gun weighs 7.1# now, made a world of difference, it does kick a wee bit harder with the steel butt plate and light weight..
hopefully can find a suitable Weaver rail to match the drilled/tapped holes already there and a set of rings to clear hammer..it had the old style see thru mounts on it before that you had to almost have your face all the way off stock to use scope. No matter it will be a good 50 yd thick cover gun which is what Im wanting..

Heres a group shot with my Leupold 3x w/dot reticle mounted, took it off my RWS 48 air rifle mounted and you see where the 1st shot hit at 30 yds(only ended up moving it about a inch right), shot 2nd shot w/o swabbing, swabbed shots 3-5 shot 5 didnt quite seat all the way down took everthing I had to get it to seat where it did...group was shot with some old Elephant FFFG black just to zero, 300 gr. XTP short mmp sabot and musket cap, with elephant it loads decent up to shot 4 #5 took all 240# of me to get it to almost seat, therefore the shot to the left...shot #4 went through the same hole as one of 1-3 Im saying it went in number 2 due to plywood being chipped out more in the back, looked like a extra 1/2 bullet mark.. considering using Elephant powder and the condition of the barrel Im very happy with my cut down Renegade.. 






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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 23rd 2014, 2:33 pm

Back up for pics of scoped group
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 23rd 2014, 2:50 pm

wow i really dont know about that scope set up! Looks very flimsy under recoil, could be the accuracy issues you are starting to get.
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 23rd 2014, 3:47 pm

You said the 1st shot was at 30 yards. If all the shots were at 30 yards, I wouldn't get too excited. Multiply the distance from center times 3+ and you'll have an approximation of what it would be at 100 yards.

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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 23rd 2014, 7:11 pm

All the rest were at 52 yds...
Scope is not flimsy at all, short stout scope, the accuracy is effected mostly by the fact the barrel is pitted like crazy and the Elephant powder fowling makes it almost impossible to seat the last bullet even with swabbing... this was the 1st 5 shots taken with the scope on..Gun was not made to be a 100 yd gun, Ive got some thickets I hunt where your lucky to get a 40 yd shot..
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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 23rd 2014, 7:28 pm

You need a scope for 40yds?

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PostSubject: Re: 35 1/2in. T/C Renegade(scope group added 3/23/14)   March 25th 2014, 2:40 pm

Muley wrote:
You need a scope for 40yds?
Dont need or have to have one just prefer it, helps to see any limbs etc hanging in the way, 3x is still way better then the naked eye and its pretty much as quick to get on target as open sights...
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