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charkey



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PostSubject: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-18, 21:02

I recently came across a great deal on
 a traditions 54 caliber muzzleloader.
it was free. yep free. guy said he just
didn't use it anymore. anyway, on the
barrel it says "traditions .54" black powder only.
made in spain.
that's about all it says. it is a percussion rifle.
anybody know anything about these rifles.
how do I figure out if its safe to shoot, or what
to shoot if it is.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-18, 21:06

Possibly a deer hunter from the sound of it?
https://traditionsfirearms.com/category/Sidelocks

I'd suggest a patched round ball in the size of .530" with a .015 to .018" patch and 70 to 90 grains Goex 2f or Pyrodex RS. Goex will fire reliably while Pyrodex you may tend to get some hang fires. The twist should be 1:48 which is good for both conicals and round balls.


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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-18, 21:17

Maybe a picture would help us identify it.

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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 13:00

Jon is correct on the gun being a Deer Hunter.

It's a .54 Jon , that .490 ball will rattle down the barrel  Wink 

Best is to slug the barrel to see what the actual bore size is and go from there , for the .54 you can get either .535 or .530 balls.

I normally start low at about 65gr 2F and work up in 5gr increments till I find the sweet spot.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 13:10

doh!! Thanks for the catch on that lol, edited and added the correct size.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 13:29

I cant figure out how
to post pics.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 16:21

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I cant figure out how
to post pics.

Google up photobucket and sign up for an account-it's free.   Load the photos into photobucket.  Click on the photo you want to attach.   Click on img thumb or other choice.  

Go to your post on this forum and click paste.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 17:17

I have removed the barrel, but (please excuse my lack of knowledge here)
there is a "plug" in the end. how do I remove that. I did get the nipple
removed also.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 17:22

Thats just a clean out screw, leave it in, they normally are so fouled up that they are no longer removable lol. Its for easy access to the powder channel, you can remove it rather than the nipple and flush the barrel out in hot soapy water. Its better to remove the nipple though IMO.

I will contact someone from Traditions and get the info on that rifle if they can figure it out.

Can you take a picture of the entire rifle so they have a better view?
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 18:32

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I have removed the barrel, but (please excuse my lack of knowledge here)
there is a "plug" in the end. how do I remove that.

If you're speaking of the breech end of the barrel; don't attempt to remove that plug. 

That is a nice looking rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 19:23

That rifle is an early Traditions Ranger Hawken with a 1:48" twist. It is not a Deer Hunter. t up  Congrats on a great find. Here is a link to a good description of the rifle.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/1041388/green-bay-wisconsin-muzzle-loaders-for-sale--traditions-ranger-hawken--54-caliber-rifle
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 19:31

Ahhhh you are right on that one!
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 19:45

It is a very rugged rifle and a shame they stopped making them. I'm not a 100% sure but, I think they stopped building it and opted for the Deer Hunter instead. Don't see to many around and for free, just can't beat that! Very Happy 

Check your bore and nipple and if all is good, shoot the heck outta it!
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 20:20

@WillametteT wrote:
That rifle is an early Traditions Ranger Hawken with a 1:48" twist. It is not a Deer Hunter. t up  Congrats on a great find. Here is a link to a good description of the rifle.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/1041388/green-bay-wisconsin-muzzle-loaders-for-sale--traditions-ranger-hawken--54-caliber-rifle
yes, that is it. that looks exactly like the
one I have. tomorrow I am going to give
the barrel a good bath. wish me luck.
thanks for all the help.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-19, 21:07

Wishing you the best on it! Let us know how it turns out for you. t up
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 06:58

Looks better than the Deer hunter , congrats on a nice find !
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 16:42

LIKE THE RIFLE IN THE PIC JON
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 17:13

here is a pic of the very last
dry patch after cleaning the barrel.
I scrubbed in hot soapy water, then
rinsed. scrubbed a little with a wire
brush. soapy water scrub again. rinse
again. finally got it pretty clean.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 17:18

Looks awesome to me!

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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 18:44

can you tell me where most people buy
their supplies. I need everything. bullets,
powder, caps, ball starter, etc. by the way,
does this rifle take #10 caps.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-20, 18:58

It should use #11 percussion caps. Nipples are cheap, I got 2 stainless replacements under the traditions name for around $5 at a local shop. It used the 6-1mm thread size too.

Let me finish cleaning up here " did a barrel dip" and i will help you with the rest of the info you asked about.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-21, 10:20

Cabela's will have everything you need to start out or you can try some local sporting goods stores in your area, if you're lucky they might have some .54 stuff.  Depending on your level of addiction, start surfing the web for muzzleloader supplies, sabots, bullets, patches....etc. Good luck.

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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-21, 10:24

Two places I get my traditional stuff.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/

http://www.rmcoxyoke.com/rmc_muzzleloading_supplies

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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-21, 12:23

I agree with T.O.T.W. and also might try The Possibles Shot. Ask plenty of questions first though to ensure you buy the right stuff and don't have to spend extra replacing it with something better.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-21, 12:37

Very good advise , ask all the dumb questions first before laying down your money.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-21, 13:23

agreed. www.possibleshop.com
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-24, 14:07

got the pistol free from the same
person. I don't see any markings
on the gun. looks cool though.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-24, 14:10

more free stuff from the
same person.
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PostSubject: Re: traditions 54    traditions 54  Empty2014-03-24, 23:42

Now thats a cool looking litle pistol! If not CVA, most likely a jukar. That looks just like a cva colonial though, i had 2 of them.
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