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OldMtnMan

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 1st 2014, 5:29 pm

Same thing here. If I mail a letter to Salida which is just 25 miles to the south of me it goes to Denver first which is 100 miles north of me.

Post office is a joke.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 1st 2014, 9:34 pm

Private businesses (FedEx, UPS) do similar things.  In addition, now when you order something via UPS, it sometimes comes through USPS.  The private companies are sub-contracting to the USPS.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 9:24 am

Ocelot, you're right. But usually UPS or Fed-Ex deliver it to the final post office. Then the local guy brings it out.
The USPS seems to have it all balled up with their regional hubs that everything has to go through.

I live right in the middle of Orlando, Tampa, and Gainesville. They are all the same mileage from me. If I mail a letter to the next town that's 15 miles away, it goes to Tampa then Orlando and then to that town. It's a 210 mile circular route to go a net of 15 miles. That is not a cost-saving measure!

PS: I just checked the tracking again and it said "Out for delivery" so maybe I'll get it today.  Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 10:16 am

Over here if it says 'out for delivery' it still might take two days...
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 11:21 am

Well, it finally showed up about 30 minutes ago. Boy, is it long.  Laughing  It is also very light. It weighs 6.9 lbs. The barrel and furniture are in the white all polished up and there are a few scuffed spots and minor dents in the stock. The scuffs should polish out. I'll probably add to the dents when I take it hunting. The rear sight has a very small notch for target shooting. I'm going to deepen and widen it for hunting with my old eyes. The pinkish colored ramrod has to get darker, probably by staining.

Will it hurt to dry fire it to check for sparks and to get used to it so I won't flinch?
Also, I want to install a front swivel through the tenon of the middle thimble. What is the desired direction of removing the pins? Left to right or vice versa?

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 11:44 am

Dry firing doesn't hurt a flintlock, but it wears out the flint. Put some powder in the pan if you're trying to get used to the flash.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 12:04 pm

Doing what Pete said might give you an idea off what it is like to fire her for real ....now you'll learn the real meaning off follow through  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 12:58 pm

Haha check first to make sure its not loaded.

Get some good pictures of it if you can!
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 1:02 pm

I just "dry fired" it with 3 gr. of 4FG in the pan. It won't hold any more than that. In fact, 2 1/2 gr. is probably the right amount.
It wasn't that bad. I was expecting much worse and flinched due to anticipated fireworks. Now that I know it's just a slight distraction, I'm sure I can ignore it.

This is going to be fun!!

I measured the bore and the land diameter is .458". The groove diameter is .472". What size ball is best? .440 seems small. I may see if .451 will work. I don't have any .445 balls or mold.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 1:05 pm

Loading the pan to just below the touch hole usually works best. Never cover the hole.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 1:10 pm

That's what I did but 3 gr. by weight filled the entire trough and then some. The touch hole is high enough so it would be difficult to put too much powder in and still close the frizzen all the way.

I need to get a flintlock tool and a brush  .... and grow about 4 inches taller to load the long thing.  Razz It's 56 1/2" long. My eyes aren't that tall.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 1:20 pm

Shorty...

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 2nd 2014, 7:19 pm

There is one sure way to eliminate flinching, not just with a flintlock, but with any firearm. It takes practice, and it takes discipline. If you can train yourself to do it, I guarantee you will never flinch. And you will probably shoot better as well.



When your sights are on target, apply pressure to the trigger. As the sights drift off - and they will -, hold that pressure but do not increase it. As the sights drift back where you want them again apply more pressure. Continue the procedure until, without knowing exactly when it is going to happen, the rifle fires. It should be a complete surprise when the gun fires, and the sights will be on target. It’ll all be over before you have a chance to flinch. A good way to practice is to make a few wood flints so you don’t use up those expensive real ones.



Forget that click, boom often associated with flintlocks. With a good lock (and it looks like you have one) there should be no noticeable difference in lock time between a flintlock and a percussion. My main go-to rifle for matches has a Chambers round face lock with a hammer throw that seems twice as long as locks on other rifles I’ve had. Even so, I never perceive any lag as long as I’ve done my part.



Doing my part is pretty simple. 1. Prime the pan. 2. The really, really important part, PICK THE TOUCHOLE to make sure it’s clear. I usually like to make sure the pick is well into the charge to make sure it didn’t get crunched too tight when the ball was rammed home.



It’s a matter of personal choice, but if that was my rifle I wouldn’t install sling swivels on it. They look okay on muskets and some Germanic rifles but they are really out of place on that style of rifle. There are guys out there who make slings that fasten on the rifle by way of loops on each end of the sling. I’d at least consider something along those lines.



As far as removing the pins is concerned, I would be really surprised if there is any taper to them. It shouldn’t make any difference which way you tape them out.



Your best bet for balls is going to be .440 or .445.



One thing I’d do early in the game is get a different tip for the ramrod. Track of the Wolf (and others) sell a tip that is just a button. The advantage is that you won’t have something sticking out past the muzzle to snag on brush.



For the length problem go the route of a lot of chunk shooters. Some build a box to stand on, and some dig a hole in the ground for the butt of the rifle to sit in. No kidding, they really do. Just kidding about you doing it though.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 9:17 am

I have the same problem with my Tower Musket .....need a box to stand on while loading the damned thing but she shoots just to sweet !
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 10:53 am

LOL!

Whats that there strapped to your back sonny? Why, its my ladder of course! I must reload some how.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 11:44 am

Yeah it's a bugger to be short !  But no one dare laugh once it is loaded.....
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 11:46 am

@Spitfire wrote:
Yeah it's a bugger to be short !  But no one dare laugh once it is loaded.....

Why? You'd be shot before you got it loaded.  clown 

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 12:01 pm

hey now, kit carson was a shorty and would stomp a mud hole in a mans ass twice as big as him lol
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 12:04 pm

Not while he was trying to reload.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 12:39 pm

My stepfather's sister married a direct descendent of Kit Carson. Every 2 or 3 years they had a family reunion in Colo. and dozens of descendents and their families showed up.

Kit Carson kicked the Navajos' butts because he was ordered to do so. No one else who tried could tame them. He burned their peach orchards and slaughtered their livestock and starved them out.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 1:10 pm

Pete I always carry a loaded .44 with me so I don't really need the Tower  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 1:19 pm

You wouldn 't have in 1840. You'd have one shot from a pistol like everybody else.  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 2:05 pm

That's true ...unless I stick two double barrelled ones into my belt.
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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 3rd 2014, 3:35 pm

You'd be bogged down with possible bag, powder horn, knife and hawk.   

Then don't forget the 11lb Hawken. Them boys were tough.

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PostSubject: Re: A New Flintlock - My First   A New Flintlock - My First - Page 2 EmptyApril 4th 2014, 6:55 am

True , I could never understand the younger guys addiction to the 5.56 round and Galil instead of the
battle proven FN FAL and 7.62 which they felt was to heavy.
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