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PostSubject: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 21st 2014, 4:56 pm

Got out to 150 yards this afternoon with the 58cal Hawken and am ready to drop a doe come September! 2 clicks up puts me perfectly out to 150 yards with 100gr Goex 2f, .020" Mink Oil Lubed patch and .570" Hornady round balls.
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Top group was with the bore swabbed completely clean of fouling with no color on the patch. That far left was my fault as I felt the rifle bump over to the left as I squeezed the trigger. The other 2 in the center were Aprox 2 1/2" apart.

The lower 3 in the white were also with a swabbed bore between shots, but left lightly blue after running a couple dry patches down the bore.
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Now the real fun? Tomorrow if its nice, Its time to back out to 170 yards, the max range I can shoot on my property without having to climb a tree.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 21st 2014, 5:02 pm

When you have it all sighted in, and to be fair to the deer. Lets see some targets at 170 yds from field shooting positions.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 21st 2014, 5:06 pm

I can not shoot field position from this point,its a very narrow track due to the way the land is shaped. I'll show you in the field and on camera this year, how's about that?
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 21st 2014, 5:07 pm

You mean before the hunt?

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 21st 2014, 5:09 pm

no during the hunt if I need to take a long that long of course. Out there they are in the low hills so 175 yards isn't uncommon IF I see one. This place is crazy and has not yielded many kills for us. The grouse alone are worth the trip however!
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 7:48 am

Good luck ,nice looking gun .That looked like my set up
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 8:22 am

Great info and the post answered some questions before I asked them. Now I have to see how many clicks will get me out to 100/150 yards and how much I need to increase my charge.
Thanks Jon for posting the info.

Ray............ t up

My Hawken is just itch' for the season to get here :rtup

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 10:49 am

Set the chrony up at 150 yards and see how much velocity you still have available out there before you plan on shooting at something that breathes. Just to make sure there's enough energy left.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 10:55 am

He'll have 480 fpe at 170 yds. With a 2ft of drop, and a 2ft drift in a 10mph crosswind.

OK for a doe through both lungs. Not good if he misses both lungs.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 11:00 am

Yeah shot placement at that range will be critical....
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 6:42 pm

well forget about shooting today! Freakin hail storm with 1 - 1 1/2" hail and hard rain that was flooding the ditches I cut earlier last year drove me into the house LOL. Bad part, I had to use my memory foam bedding to cover the truck and then use a bunch of cardboard to protect the jeeps hood/fenders.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 6:47 pm

I saw in Denver houses had big holes I them. I can imagine what the cars look like.

I haven't gotten anything yet, but it's trying to do something right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 22nd 2014, 11:03 pm

Hail is bad news ...
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 23rd 2014, 9:41 pm

Hey Frontier, is that Hawken a CVA? Great looking stuffer!
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 23rd 2014, 10:34 pm

yep cva hawken with the 32" cva mountain rifle barrel installed. I got tired of the 1:48 twist so i wanted the heavier duty 1" barrel and biggest bore i could find.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyMay 24th 2014, 12:09 am

Biggest bore you could find .......then why not opted for a .85 instead of .58  Wink  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 2nd 2014, 2:44 pm

Ha, I wish! I don't think the stock would handle that kind of recoil, nor the shooter  Shooter 
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 2nd 2014, 2:46 pm

.85 caliber? Isn't that a cannon?

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 2nd 2014, 8:43 pm

A 12 ga. is a .73 cal.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 2nd 2014, 9:46 pm

Yeah, a cannon.

Compared to my little .50 anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 3rd 2014, 7:27 am

It's 'only' 8 Bore.....would classify it as a cannon from 2 Bore on  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 3rd 2014, 7:36 am

Cmon! A cannon is an expression of a big gun. I think .85 cal qualifies.

I know it's not a real cannon.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 3rd 2014, 8:16 am

Yeah when you light the +200gr of powder it feels like cannon as well ! 

Would like to try a 4 Bore or 2 Bore sometime just to feel what it feels like but they are a bit scares.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 3rd 2014, 8:40 am

I wish my gun was a .58 instead of a .50. Then I wouldn't have to use a maxiball for bear. I know the .50 PRB would probably work, but I don't have the faith that some others have in it. 177gr is kind of light for an animal that can eat me. The 270gr .58 would give me more confidence.

I'm fine with the .50 for any deer, or even elk, but i'm using the 370gr maxi for bear. I'm not ready to be bear lunch yet. I've even considered the 460gr NoExcuses conical, but damn they kick hard for this old man.

The maxi kicks pretty hard enough. A 270gr .58 sounds a lot easier on the cheek.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Range Sidelock shooting   Long Range Sidelock shooting EmptyJune 3rd 2014, 9:37 am

Still want to build a .58 with a Forsyth Pattern Rifled barrel , that should be a sweet shooter with PRB.

Have you never thought of getting a .54 barrel for your gun , 230gr at a reasonable velocity is not to be sneezed at.
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